Millertime Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 1 minute ago, RUL said: They'd both walk into this team. So what? Link to comment
Ke1t Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 7 minutes ago, RUL said: They'd both walk into this team. Salenko would definitely walk into this team. Who'll get that one, I wonder ?? Link to comment
Ten Caat Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 30 minutes ago, Millertime said: McCoist was lightyears ahead of Ramirez, bloody hell You won't remember how hated he was by the oldco fans in 83/84/85 as part of a hilariously shit hun side. Literally couldn't hit a coo's are with a banjo. Of course he scored truckloads later on in the spend, spend, spend years when he was getting goals laid on a plate for him. But you or I could have scored in that side. Link to comment
Millertime Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 6 minutes ago, Ten Caat said: You won't remember how hated he was by the oldco fans in 83/84/85 as part of a hilariously shit hun side. Literally couldn't hit a coo's are with a banjo. Of course he scored truckloads later on in the spend, spend, spend years when he was getting goals laid on a plate for him. But you or I could have scored in that side. I think that's doing him a great disservice He was superb Link to comment
Ke1t Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 16 minutes ago, Ten Caat said: You won't remember how hated he was by the oldco fans in 83/84/85 as part of a hilariously shit hun side. Literally couldn't hit a coo's are with a banjo. Of course he scored truckloads later on in the spend, spend, spend years when he was getting goals laid on a plate for him. But you or I could have scored in that side. Massively overrated cunt who was made to look far better than he was by the world class players around him... and afforded ludicrous protections by the officials. He could literally send an Aberdeen player to hospital with a savage sliding tackle, and the media would insist it was a 50/50 ball that he had every right to go for. His time at Sunderland tells you he wasn't quite a 'goal machine' when he was surrounded by average players. Never fooled Fergie. Didn't take him to the World Cup even as a squad player. "...denied a move to St Mirren because Alex Ferguson thought he was not good enough." Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 Haven’t even seen the yank that Hibs signed on a pre but can tell already he’s been a better signing than Ramirez has been for us. Link to comment
Ernie McCracken Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 2 hours ago, fine-n-dandy said: Haven’t even seen the yank that Hibs signed on a pre but can tell already he’s been a better signing than Ramirez has been for us. Have ye been using such fancy dan stuff like evidence and statistics? Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 2 hours ago, Ernie McCracken said: Have ye been using such fancy dan stuff like evidence and statistics? No need. Had we signed that guy on a pre contract with view to get him in January I think he would have been just as useful for us between now & then as Ramirez is 1 Link to comment
perthshirered Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 13 hours ago, Ke1t said: Massively overrated cunt who was made to look far better than he was by the world class players around him... and afforded ludicrous protections by the officials. He could literally send an Aberdeen player to hospital with a savage sliding tackle, and the media would insist it was a 50/50 ball that he had every right to go for. His time at Sunderland tells you he wasn't quite a 'goal machine' when he was surrounded by average players. Never fooled Fergie. Didn't take him to the World Cup even as a squad player. "...denied a move to St Mirren because Alex Ferguson thought he was not good enough." He left Sunderland when he was 20. You are a harsh audience if you are expecting him to have been a "goal machine" at that age. Link to comment
RUL Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 31 minutes ago, perthshirered said: He left Sunderland when he was 20. You are a harsh audience if you are expecting him to have been a "goal machine" at that age. We've got fans that want a manager sacked after 6 league games. 1 Link to comment
The Boofon Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 14 hours ago, Ke1t said: Massively overrated cunt who was made to look far better than he was by the world class players around him... and afforded ludicrous protections by the officials. He could literally send an Aberdeen player to hospital with a savage sliding tackle, and the media would insist it was a 50/50 ball that he had every right to go for. His time at Sunderland tells you he wasn't quite a 'goal machine' when he was surrounded by average players. Never fooled Fergie. Didn't take him to the World Cup even as a squad player. "...denied a move to St Mirren because Alex Ferguson thought he was not good enough." We almost signed him in ‘86 or ‘87. Fell through at last minute. Link to comment
strachanmcgheegoal Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 Much as I detested the cunt he got shown up when Hately arrived. He was, regrettably, quality. Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 57 minutes ago, RUL said: We've got fans that want a manager sacked after 6 league games. So we ignore all the euro games, the league games from last season & the 2 cup exits & act like he’s only being judged on 6 shite league games only? Another case of attempted playing down his responsibility overall by making it seem those judging him ‘prematurely’ are being unfair? Why not go a step further & say just the 4 league games because we won the other two? Sounds like we’re being even more ridiculous then ? Link to comment
Crossbow Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 1 hour ago, RUL said: We've got fans that want a manager sacked after 6 league games. He's had 21 games in charge and won 7 of them and lost 9 - obviously includes league games from April last year as I recall seeing him in the dugout then. It's not a great start - he's had a bad transfer window in terms of his choices - his teams don't seem to have a style and he's fluked a pair of good, possibly very good fullbacks to help him along. At what point do you cut him loose... We are currently out of the the league cup, out of Europe and in the bottom half of the league having played what one might reasonably have called the easier part of the league. The glass is not half full there's just a stain at the bottom and I'd rather AFC didn't join it. Link to comment
RUL Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 25 minutes ago, fine-n-dandy said: So we ignore all the euro games, the league games from last season & the 2 cup exits & act like he’s only being judged on 6 shite league games only? Another case of attempted playing down his responsibility overall by making it seem those judging him ‘prematurely’ are being unfair? Why not go a step further & say just the 4 league games because we won the other two? Sounds like we’re being even more ridiculous then ? So we won 2 rounds of European football so I assume you don't really want to consider those games anyway? We were outclassed by Qarabag, what else is there to say? Raith was a poor result. As you say your not interested in the 2 wins and probably not interested in us drawing with hearts as it doesn't suit your narrative so really it's 3 games. Your right, ridiculous. Link to comment
RUL Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 4 minutes ago, Crossbow said: He's had 21 games in charge and won 7 of them and lost 9 - obviously includes league games from April last year as I recall seeing him in the dugout then. It's not a great start - he's had a bad transfer window in terms of his choices - his teams don't seem to have a style and he's fluked a pair of good, possibly very good fullbacks to help him along. At what point do you cut him loose... We are currently out of the the league cup, out of Europe and in the bottom half of the league having played what one might reasonably have called the easier part of the league. The glass is not half full there's just a stain at the bottom and I'd rather AFC didn't join it. Im not judging him on last season. I'll judge it after 22 games, played everyone twice and will have a better idea of how it's going to go. I'd be pretty disappointed with 7th at end of season but my point is more we are 5 points off top and bottom. Surely that alone tells you it's to early to judge a manager? Link to comment
Ten Caat Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 3 hours ago, RUL said: Im not judging him on last season. I'll judge it after 22 games, played everyone twice and will have a better idea of how it's going to go. I'd be pretty disappointed with 7th at end of season but my point is more we are 5 points off top and bottom. Surely that alone tells you it's to early to judge a manager? Which superficially seems the reasonable thing to do. But we are about to face St Mirren away, Celtic at home, Dundee away, Hibs at home and sevco away. Which would take us to halfway to your judgement point. 15 points available, but I think it will be a miracle if we manage to take 6. I'll always live in hope but right now it's in short supply, Glass doesn't seem to know who his best eleven are, he doesn't seem to know what his best formation is and to be perfectly frank........he doesn't seem to know much at at all about managing in the SPL. My expectation is that we will be in the bottom 3 or 4 by the time November comes around. Injuries and suspensions are likely to be hitting us by then (might make his midfield selections a bit easier with less options to choose from). If he doesn't sort his shit out rapidly in games 12-22, there's a very good chance we reach the New Year with the very distinct possibility of relegation looming over us. Do we cut him loose then? Or do we risk letting him try to fix things by giving him cash to spend in the January window? Would anyone want to join up with us anyway? In the summer, I said I wasn't judging Glass on what had happened since he joined up. I was giving him a free hit for that period as it wasn't his squad and he needed to experiment a bit to see what he was working with. But his first transfer window has really been pretty disastrous. A shitload of duds, most of whom are on big wages with a few loans who look they're not up to the job this far. It's so bad, I just can't trust him to be allowed the chance to fix things in January. Let him get through a likely disastrous October, which would probably be the case no matter who was in charge and then get him to fuck out. Bring in someone who knows what they are doing. 1 3 Link to comment
RUL Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 I'm hoping for at least 9 points out of next 5 games. Which would mean 17 points from first 11 games. I can't see us being anywhere near relegation material.... Link to comment
Millertime Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 9 hours ago, RUL said: Im not judging him on last season. I'll judge it after 22 games, played everyone twice and will have a better idea of how it's going to go. I'd be pretty disappointed with 7th at end of season but my point is more we are 5 points off top and bottom. Surely that alone tells you it's to early to judge a manager? "Pretty disappointed with 7th" Away you GO Mcinnes built us up way, way more than that 7th would be sackable, bottom 6 should be We have not been out the top 4 in the last 8 years, anything less isn't acceptable 1 Link to comment
Don_Corleone Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 3 hours ago, Millertime said: "Pretty disappointed with 7th" Away you GO Mcinnes built us up way, way more than that 7th would be sackable, bottom 6 should be We have not been out the top 4 in the last 8 years, anything less isn't acceptable Agreed. Was time up for McInnes as he wasn't taking us forward any more, we were slipping backwards. New manager was brought in to take us forward from 4th place finishes, and to win a cup every now and again and to get further in Europe etc. If Glass led us to 4th place this season and a cup final that would be just about acceptable as you'd give him a season to make changes etc before demanding to see real progress forward. But finishing 7th and out of a cup at the first hurdle is nowhere near acceptable - when you start sliding back to that extent you're only going to slip even further the next season. Link to comment
Stoneybloke Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 I thought his headed goal today was fantastic. I feel a bit sorry for him at times as he seems to be a bit out of his dapth, like a wee boy in the big bad world of Scottish football. I hope he comes good as he seems to be a really nice guy. Link to comment
South Stand Seagull Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 He’s taken some heat on here (from me included) - must be said his goal today was fantastic. He’s got some good quality in there. Link to comment
Crossbow Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 His goal was good but he was poorly marked. I don’t see any improvement in him over Curtis Main. 2 yards too slow for our game. Seems a nice guy much like our manager. 1 Link to comment
manboobs109 Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 You can't see Ramirez as an improvement on Curtis Main? Seriously? He must've already scored more goals than Main did for us. Link to comment
RED_JOHN Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 Ramirez is a very decent striker if played properly. He can score goals and is our only real threat in front of goal. Link to comment
Crossbow Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 12 minutes ago, manboobs109 said: You can't see Ramirez as an improvement on Curtis Main? Seriously? He must've already scored more goals than Main did for us. More game time I think. I’d love him to be the new Rooney but he’s not, he’s the old Rooney. Tries really hard but he’s just a bit slow and is okay. He’s had about four goes at the shooting from the corner and hit the target once. That was a well worked goal just as yesterday’s was. He’s a nicer footballer than Main if that’s a good thing (i think it is) but I’m not convinced by his actual performances. I don’t expect him to score when he gets the ball in the box. Hopefully he goes on a purple patch of scoring and sticks a hat trick in against the arse cheeks. Link to comment
DelMonte Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 He’s obviously better than Main. I thought he was horrendous yesterday until he scored. Seemed to take a bit of confidence. His passing is genuinely so bad. Link to comment
strachanmcgheegoal Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 ^^^Which still makes him an upgrade on Main Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 Definitely better than Main. Main was a shambles. Link to comment
afc1903mad Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 7 hours ago, Crossbow said: His goal was good but he was poorly marked. I don’t see any improvement in him over Curtis Main. 2 yards too slow for our game. Seems a nice guy much like our manager. It wasn't that he was poorly marked, it was that we worked a routine that meant Brown blocked his marker and allowed Ramirez to get free. Excellently worked goal from Aberdeen. I'm more concerned about our ability to create in open play. Most of our goals come from set pieces Link to comment
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