Ryan hedges , stay or go

[Byrne Baby Byrne]

57 minutes ago, jamiesd said:

Ferguson has been fucking piss for ages so plenty would fill his current talent

That's funny cause we have about 90 central midfielders but Ferguson plays every week.

Ok lets go sign the other 22 year old who's been in the last 3 Scotland squads.

Agree with the sentiment that he's not been at his best but he's still one of our best players and given way more than anyone expected when signed.

[jamiesd]

37 minutes ago, Byrne Baby Byrne said:

That's funny cause we have about 90 central midfielders but Ferguson plays every week.

Ok lets go sign the other 22 year old who's been in the last 3 Scotland squads.

Agree with the sentiment that he's not been at his best but he's still one of our best players and given way more than anyone expected when signed.

I know, i was just on the wind up

[The Gee Man]

4 hours ago, Byrne Baby Byrne said:

Amuses me when folk think Scotland is a hot bed of talent and players like Ferguson are appearing all the time. 

Finding them and agreeing terms before another team comes in is a huge challenge. But the biggest challenge is when they don't actually exist

Did I say in Scotland? Or just say let’s find the next talent like him. It amuses me how negative some are to every comment 

[The Gee Man]

Jeez my main issue with January window, SG he’s not signing a new contract either sell him or just say publicly unless we get a bid of £1 million he stays till his contract is done. Then this shite media game is over 

[fine-n-dandy]

Hedges will no doubt be offered more wages elsewhere. Absolutely zero incentive for him to stay here.

Take whatever meagre amount we're offered by whichever club signs him on a pre-contract.  Chances are he'll be injured between window closing & season end anyway for a spell as he never seems to manage that long a run in team without injury. He gets a lot of hard treatment by opposition players because of his directness

[Durrant Dived]

45 minutes ago, fine-n-dandy said:

Hedges will no doubt be offered more wages elsewhere. Absolutely zero incentive for him to stay here.

Take whatever meagre amount we're offered by whichever club signs him on a pre-contract.  Chances are he'll be injured between window closing & season end anyway for a spell as he never seems to manage that long a run in team without injury. He gets a lot of hard treatment by opposition players because of his directness

Get Ryan Duncan in the team to replace him. He looks similar type of player.

[Hoofball]

If he signs a pre contract try and get some money for him this window, no point having a player here who already doesn’t perform on a constant basis and go to plan B 

[Tord31]

Good player for us at the moment. I'd say asking price is £500k at the moment

I could still see him going to the huns but hopefully they'll be more focussed on foreign players now

[afc1903mad]

He will be a tough gap to fill when he goes.

when he’s direct, his pace is really beneficial to the team.

[afc1903mad]

11 hours ago, Tord31 said:

Good player for us at the moment. I'd say asking price is £500k at the moment

Is it worth losing him for £500k rather than have him till the summer. Unless we have a similar pace replacement lined up, then the value to our team after the winter break would be worth more

[Ten Caat]

If anyone is mad enough to offer £500k for him in January we should snap their hands off for it. When he's on form he can be devastating but far too often he's either anonymous or just plain rank rotten. And he misses large chunks of every season through injury. 

But it won't be happening

There's a reason why it's the likes of Blackburn and Middlesbrough that are showing interest in him as opposed to even lower half EPL teams like Burnley or Watford

[Tord31]

12 hours ago, afc1903mad said:

Is it worth losing him for £500k rather than have him till the summer. Unless we have a similar pace replacement lined up, then the value to our team after the winter break would be worth more

I think the offers are more likely to be £250k.

£500k for a player to miss February to May is a no brainer.

we'd probably deal below that. hard to replace him but we have to do it soon

[Don_Corleone]

If we get a bid of £250k we'll likely accept it, and try to replace him with some youngster from England on loan to tide us over until the summer, at which point we'll bring in a permanent replacement. That's what I expect to happen anyway. The problem is the youngster we'll get could either be a James Maddison, or an Austin Samuels. Probably more chance of it being the latter.

[Byrne Baby Byrne]

Aberdeen have been absolutely shite the whole time Hedges has been here. You couldn't blame him for wanting to leave... especially now we are worse than ever. If it takes big wages to make him stay then it's just not worth it as he spends half the time on the treatment table. 

[fine-n-dandy]

On 12/6/2021 at 11:10 AM, Byrne Baby Byrne said:

Aberdeen have been absolutely shite the whole time Hedges has been here. You couldn't blame him for wanting to leave... especially now we are worse than ever. If it takes big wages to make him stay then it's just not worth it as he spends half the time on the treatment table. 

All more reason we should just take any fee we can in January. For all he contributes (ie not consistently) & his injury record, he’s hardly worth the wages to potential fee (however small) & risk of losing him for a fair chunk of remaining contract anyway.

 

Sell/move on

[slippers]

1 hour ago, fine-n-dandy said:

All more reason we should just take any fee we can in January. For all he contributes (ie not consistently) & his injury record, he’s hardly worth the wages to potential fee (however small) & risk of losing him for a fair chunk of remaining contract anyway.

 

Sell/move on

Still feel like a Blackburn could chuck us some decent cash as they look to add to squad for run in to gain promotion. Don’t think 400-500k is completely out question in which case we should deal and hope we now have a decent head of recruitment…

[jamiesd]

He was impersonating Gary Macdonald yesterday 

[Ten Caat]

1 hour ago, slippers said:

Still feel like a Blackburn could chuck us some decent cash as they look to add to squad for run in to gain promotion. Don’t think 400-500k is completely out question in which case we should deal and hope we now have a decent head of recruitment…

He isn't worth a whole lot more than £500k even with a full 3 year contract (i'd say about £800k.........his limitations being so one footed, inconsistent play....remember he couldn't get a game for us in the second half of his first season at Pittodrie.....and his frequent large portions of each season out through injury mean he isn't a million pound player imo)

So with all that in mind, we aren't going to get anywhere near what you think with only 6 months left to go on his contract. Blackburn are going well and if they continue their form into January they will be a decent bet to get promoted. They may well look elsewhere at that point because Hedges is definitely not EPL standard

[Hoofball]

2 hours ago, slippers said:

Still feel like a Blackburn could chuck us some decent cash as they look to add to squad for run in to gain promotion. Don’t think 400-500k is completely out question in which case we should deal and hope we now have a decent head of recruitment…

If they get anywhere near the 20 million the want for Brereton they could well offer some cash for Hedges but think 500k is more than they would offer

[aberdeen1970]

We need to focus on getting a suitable replacement in as there's no one in the current first team squad that can take his place. 

We should be lining up someone now to be here first week in January. 

Then any debates about a couple of hundred grand here or there for Hedges will be pretty immaterial. 

[Hoofball]

1 minute ago, aberdeen1970 said:

We need to focus on getting a suitable replacement in as there's no one in the current first team squad that can take his place. 

We should be lining up someone now to be here first week in January. 

Then any debates about a couple of hundred grand here or there for Hedges will be pretty immaterial. 

The second he started stalling a search for his replacement should’ve started. Fed up with Aberdeen rolling over to players and letting have all the power. 

[aberdeen1970]

5 minutes ago, Hoofball said:

The second he started stalling a search for his replacement should’ve started. Fed up with Aberdeen rolling over to players and letting have all the power. 

Aye hopefully we've got someone lined up to come in as soon as the window opens. 

There's likely to be more speculation around Ferguson as well. With Longstaff going back and McGeouch being injury prone it might be an idea to bring in a new playmaker in Central midfield as well. 

I think the noise around Ramsay will shift to the summer now that he's been out for a bit. 

[WesthillWanderersFC]

1 hour ago, Hoofball said:

The second he started stalling a search for his replacement should’ve started. Fed up with Aberdeen rolling over to players and letting have all the power. 

He should’ve been sold in the summer when he hadn’t signed the contract we offered. 

Any decent assets we have that we can attract decent fees for shouldn’t be allowed to run down their contract.

 

[aberdeen1970]

1 minute ago, WesthillWanderersFC said:

He should’ve been sold in the summer when he hadn’t signed the contract we offered. 

Any decent assets we have that we can attract decent fees for shouldn’t be allowed to run down their contract.

 

It's not as simple as that though. 

In theory you are correct but succession planning is key to making that policy work. If we'd sold him in the summer we'd have been playing Samuels every week. 

When you leave yourself in a position where you're going to have a massive impact on the side by letting someone go because

a) there's no one in the squad that can replace him and

b) you've got no one earmarked to bring into the club 

Then sometimes you can't afford to cut off your nose to spite your face. 

Even an injury prone and inconsistent Hedges is still possibly our most important attacking player. 

[Hoofball]

7 minutes ago, WesthillWanderersFC said:

He should’ve been sold in the summer when he hadn’t signed the contract we offered. 

Any decent assets we have that we can attract decent fees for shouldn’t be allowed to run down their contract.

 

Agreed, contract negotiations should start when the player has 18 months or so left of their contract and if they piss about sold in the summer with 12 month left so a decent fee can be received

[WesthillWanderersFC]

13 minutes ago, aberdeen1970 said:

It's not as simple as that though. 

In theory you are correct but succession planning is key to making that policy work. If we'd sold him in the summer we'd have been playing Samuels every week. 

When you leave yourself in a position where you're going to have a massive impact on the side by letting someone go because

a) there's no one in the squad that can replace him and

b) you've got no one earmarked to bring into the club 

Then sometimes you can't afford to cut off your nose to spite your face. 

Even an injury prone and inconsistent Hedges is still possibly our most important attacking player. 

It should be easy though.

Point b) above - if we haven’t it doesn’t say much for our planning. 

[aberdeen1970]

9 minutes ago, Hoofball said:

Agreed, contract negotiations should start when the player has 18 months or so left of their contract and if they piss about sold in the summer with 12 month left so a decent fee can be received

Aye but this only works for players on longer contracts. 

Most of our new signings this summer have signed 1 or 2 year deals.  

[aberdeen1970]

2 minutes ago, WesthillWanderersFC said:

It should be easy though.

Point b) above - if we haven’t it doesn’t say much for our planning. 

Yeah but we couldn't afford to let Hedges go in August because we'd nobody at the club and also nobody willing/ready to come into the club that would have replaced him without seriously making the team worse than it is. 

So yeah, shit long term planning boxed us into a corner. Meaning it would have been daft to punt him for the sake of a couple of hundred grand 

 

[Hoofball]

16 minutes ago, aberdeen1970 said:

It's not as simple as that though. 

In theory you are correct but succession planning is key to making that policy work. If we'd sold him in the summer we'd have been playing Samuels every week. 

When you leave yourself in a position where you're going to have a massive impact on the side by letting someone go because

a) there's no one in the squad that can replace him and

b) you've got no one earmarked to bring into the club 

Then sometimes you can't afford to cut off your nose to spite your face. 

Even an injury prone and inconsistent Hedges is still possibly our most important attacking player. 

Thats where a quality scouting network comes into play. Replacements should be scouted for every player as you never know when an offer will come in for a player

[aberdeen1970]

Just now, Hoofball said:

Thats where a quality scouting network comes into play. Replacements should be scouted for every player as you never know when an offer will come in for a player

Exactly. 

Let's hope our succession planning improves under the new regime.