minijc Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 4 minutes ago, Alex Ferguson said: Total BS - why not postpone coaching career by 2 months and see the season out? The season didn't turn out well? Well it's not over. Aye his friend was sacked and he was the assistant but come one be the big man and give the fans something, very carefully worded statement from Brown, not sorry to see him go. Yes he should have demanded to play when the new manager and some players didn't want him here. Link to comment
Big Hat Logan Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 17 hours ago, Ke1t said: Regardless of whether Aberdeen is or isn't a 'Big Club', it's safe to say that, beyond the 1980s and for a while in the 90s, we've done nothing but punch way, way below our weight. 3rd place is nothing but punching way, way below our weight? K 1 Link to comment
RUL Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 55 minutes ago, aberdeen1970 said: I doubt it was Ramirez that wanted him away based on his social media comments and it wouldn't have been Hayes either. The only other potential power base amongst the players would be the McCrorie, Ferguson crowd so I assume it was them that wanted him away? It's about the manager, he wants to play McCrorie, Brown and Barron. Where does Brown fit if those 3 are fit? Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 7 minutes ago, RUL said: It's about the manager, he wants to play McCrorie, Brown and Barron. Where does Brown fit if those 3 are fit? On the bench. Link to comment
Yorston Vasey Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 4 hours ago, Millertime said: How does that compare to Spain? 3rd most successful team is Real Madrid. I think they'll have won the cup a bit more recently than 129 years ago. Link to comment
Lan_Lad Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 21 hours ago, Rico1903 said: It's unfortunate he uses the term 'old firm'. Yeah, he nicely broke it down into the numbers that count. It's insurmountable. Link to comment
muttonhumper Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 13 hours ago, RUL said: It's about the manager, he wants to play McCrorie, Brown and Barron. Where does Brown fit if those 3 are fit? In between McCrorie and Barron going by what you've written? ? 3 Link to comment
RUL Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 16 hours ago, muttonhumper said: In between McCrorie and Barron going by what you've written? ? Ferguson ? 1 Link to comment
Byrne Baby Byrne Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 On 3/11/2022 at 8:01 AM, Rico1903 said: It's unfortunate he uses the term 'old firm'. Just spotted this. So grim to view. Everyone up in arms that Aberdeen couldn't make it to "the next level".... fuck me I doubt we ever will. Horrendous. Certainly not helped by all the fucking simpletons who support the cunts instead of their local team 1 Link to comment
minijc Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 17 minutes ago, Byrne Baby Byrne said: Just spotted this. So grim to view. Everyone up in arms that Aberdeen couldn't make it to "the next level".... fuck me I doubt we ever will. Horrendous. Certainly not helped by all the fucking simpletons who support the cunts instead of their local team Fixation with money will always hold a club back, this is where more need to think outside of the box and improve in other areas to help compete that way. 2 Link to comment
slippers Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 4 minutes ago, Byrne Baby Byrne said: Just spotted this. So grim to view. Everyone up in arms that Aberdeen couldn't make it to "the next level".... fuck me I doubt we ever will. Horrendous. Certainly not helped by all the fucking simpletons who support the cunts instead of their local team Really emphasis how far we are behind. And that’s us third highest wages. We have 3 x the wages of half the league. It really is quite staggering how teams like livi and Hamilton can put out a competitive team against Celtic and Rangers. Link to comment
Poodler Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 3 minutes ago, minijc said: Fixation with money will always hold a club back, this is where more need to think outside of the box and improve in other areas to help compete that way. Fajitas and taco’s added to the good stalls? servers to be white and good at maths Link to comment
slippers Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 1 minute ago, minijc said: Fixation with money will always hold a club back, this is where more need to think outside of the box and improve in other areas to help compete that way. Exactly look at the impact 2 or 3 of those Japanese lads have had for Celtic. These are players that didn’t even cost that much on scale of things and came from a market no1 even thought of looking at prior. These players are still out our budget but if the clubs recruitment was better and could tap into unknown markets I would quite like us to take a punt on the odd player on decent money. Offer them a platform for a few seasons and move them on. I suspect that’s what we have done with Vicente, hopefully he hits the ground running next season. 1 Link to comment
Byrne Baby Byrne Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 3 minutes ago, minijc said: Fixation with money will always hold a club back, this is where more need to think outside of the box and improve in other areas to help compete that way. Aye ok but realistically Man City have won the most EPL's in the last 10 years and have the most money. Celtic with 9 of the last 10 years. Bayern are probably going to win their 10th in a row. PSG win it all the time. Real Madrid away to romp it. Italian football just starting to become competitive again after Juve's dominance and just buying their competitors players. Money has fucked football and Scottish football is probably the worst example of it. But with all that said..... Rangers & Celtic having more money than us can't be the excuse for losing to basically the entire league and also Raith this season 2 Link to comment
minijc Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 For me we should be investing more in better coaches, scouting and sports science, obviously that does require more money but it's areas where we could probably compete with bigger clubs if we are smart about it. It's also important that we get the footballing structure nailed on and continue trying to find players that pass others by for whatever reason, over time that should pay off allowing us to bridge the gap. 1 Link to comment
slippers Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 8 minutes ago, minijc said: For me we should be investing more in better coaches, scouting and sports science, obviously that does require more money but it's areas where we could probably compete with bigger clubs if we are smart about it. It's also important that we get the footballing structure nailed on and continue trying to find players that pass others by for whatever reason, over time that should pay off allowing us to bridge the gap. You could argue that the recruitment and scouting is the most important part of our club. Obviously you want a decent manager but I’m convinced McInnes would still be here even if our recruitment had been half respectable but it’s been an absolute shit show, who knows how much McInnes and Glass had influence on this but it’s been disgraceful and set the team and club back. I’m not sure I buy that it’s set us back 2/3 years though. We are 3/4 good players away from challenging for our minimum expectation of 3rd. That can easy be overcome if we recruit well in summer. Link to comment
Byrne Baby Byrne Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 6 minutes ago, slippers said: You could argue that the recruitment and scouting is the most important part of our club. Obviously you want a decent manager but I’m convinced McInnes would still be here even if our recruitment had been half respectable but it’s been an absolute shit show, who knows how much McInnes and Glass had influence on this but it’s been disgraceful and set the team and club back. I’m not sure I buy that it’s set us back 2/3 years though. We are 3/4 good players away from challenging for our minimum expectation of 3rd. That can easy be overcome if we recruit well in summer. Aye it wont take much. Says more about how shite the league is than ourselves. If we had won just 2 games since Boxing Day we'd be 4th. If we can just be average next season we'll easily finish 3rd. Then hopefully we can build on that... Link to comment
Big Hat Logan Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 On 3/11/2022 at 8:01 AM, Rico1903 said: It's unfortunate he uses the term 'old firm'. ALL YOU NEED IS AMBITION THO Link to comment
minijc Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 29 minutes ago, Big Hat Logan said: ALL YOU NEED IS AMBITION THO Worked for Brentford. 1 Link to comment
minijc Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, Byrne Baby Byrne said: I think the last thing they won was League 2 in 2009. Stick them in the Scottish league with our money and there is not a chance they are doing anything. we should just fuck off Scottish football and join the English leagues since the weegies are too feart to do it. I reckon the dandies would flourish… Southampton levels anyway. Let’s go Our money but with their structure would see them punch above their weight, that should be our aim. 1 Link to comment
Byrne Baby Byrne Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 18 minutes ago, minijc said: Worked for Brentford. I think the last thing they won was League 2 in 2009. Stick them in the Scottish league with our money and there is not a chance they are doing anything. we should just fuck off Scottish football and join the English leagues since the weegies are too feart to do it. I reckon the dandies would flourish… Southampton levels anyway. Let’s go Link to comment
Byrne Baby Byrne Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 6 minutes ago, minijc said: Our money but with their structure would see them punch above their weight, that should be our aim. Well as usual I am being opinionated on something I know fuck all about ? couldn’t tell you a thing about Brentford. so I will take your word for it! Link to comment
Alex Ferguson Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 2 hours ago, slippers said: Exactly look at the impact 2 or 3 of those Japanese lads have had for Celtic. These are players that didn’t even cost that much on scale of things and came from a market no1 even thought of looking at prior. These players are still out our budget but if the clubs recruitment was better and could tap into unknown markets I would quite like us to take a punt on the odd player on decent money. Offer them a platform for a few seasons and move them on. I suspect that’s what we have done with Vicente, hopefully he hits the ground running next season. Holland, an unknown market? ? Link to comment
minijc Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 21 minutes ago, Byrne Baby Byrne said: Well as usual I am being opinionated on something I know fuck all about ? couldn’t tell you a thing about Brentford. so I will take your word for it! BRENTFORD FC: The Incredible Story Of Their Last Decade - YouTube You can watch this to give you an idea, obviously there's still a fair bit of cash used there but it's all relative and definitely the way to go for most clubs, especially with scouting. 1 1 Link to comment
Big Hat Logan Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 On 3/14/2022 at 12:55 PM, minijc said: Worked for Brentford. On 3/14/2022 at 1:46 PM, minijc said: BRENTFORD FC: The Incredible Story Of Their Last Decade - YouTube You can watch this to give you an idea, obviously there's still a fair bit of cash used there but it's all relative and definitely the way to go for most clubs, especially with scouting. So Brentford have spent loads of money and won nothing? Cool 1 Link to comment
slippers Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 34 minutes ago, Big Hat Logan said: So Brentford have spent loads of money and won nothing? Cool They have a smaller turnover than us without player sales. If we can get the strategy right absolute no reason why we can’t spend 50-100% more than we currently are knowing we will be able to recoup majority of it if not more! Sadly that side of the club is an absolute disgrace. I think if we do start to sell players more regularly we will see the club loosen the purse strings and start to speculate more. It’s just getting the first 1 or 2 big sales to trigger it all. The challenge after selling them is replacing them with a player as good if not better! Link to comment
minijc Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 38 minutes ago, Big Hat Logan said: So Brentford have spent loads of money and won nothing? Cool Excellent take. Link to comment
Don Fonte Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 2 hours ago, slippers said: They have a smaller turnover than us without player sales. If we can get the strategy right absolute no reason why we can’t spend 50-100% more than we currently are knowing we will be able to recoup majority of it if not more! Sadly that side of the club is an absolute disgrace. I think if we do start to sell players more regularly we will see the club loosen the purse strings and start to speculate more. It’s just getting the first 1 or 2 big sales to trigger it all. The challenge after selling them is replacing them with a player as good if not better! Bullshit. How much they get for being in the EPL? Link to comment
Millertime Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 On 3/14/2022 at 12:55 PM, minijc said: Worked for Brentford. What have they won? Link to comment
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