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2 hours ago, zeroisgod76 said:

Its highly depressing. My dad was never into football so only started going regualarly with my pals when i was 10/11 (1987/88). Just missed the glory years of Fergie but the cup double of 89/90 had me thinking there was still plenty good times to come. Since then 2 League Cups. We;ve had more relegation battles than trophies in the last 30 years.... and yet many of our fans still like to think of us as a big club.

Aberdeen aren’t a big club in Scotland? You are just being silly now. 

And the point I was making that you are finding so hard to grasp is on the basis is that for some reason finding some infantile  joy in a celebration of our shitiness is fucking embarrassing. We should have way more pride than that and behaving like that is just reinforcing the arse cheeks opinion  of every other team in Scotland including Aberdeen being to use their vernacular a diddy team. That behaviour simply serves to reinforce and give justification to their position that we are a diddy team. Just because we were playing in a manner befitting that description didn’t mean we had to fucking accept it .

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Hey look, trophies are irrelevant 

aberdeen have what money can’t buy….

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1 minute ago, Poodler said:

Hey look, trophies are irrelevant 

aberdeen have what money can’t buy….

The use of that fabricated quote does my head in.

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2 hours ago, Kilgore Trout said:

Aberdeen aren’t a big club in Scotland? You are just being silly now. 

And the point I was making that you are finding so hard to grasp is on the basis is that for some reason finding some infantile  joy in a celebration of our shitiness is fucking embarrassing. We should have way more pride than that and behaving like that is just reinforcing the arse cheeks opinion  of every other team in Scotland including Aberdeen being to use their vernacular a diddy team. That behaviour simply serves to reinforce and give justification to their position that we are a diddy team. Just because we were playing in a manner befitting that description didn’t mean we had to fucking accept it .

We are a diddy team though. 

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1 hour ago, minijc said:

The use of that fabricated quote does my head in.

Agreed 

 

does the interview in which it allegedly appeared actually exist? 😂

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4 hours ago, Kilgore Trout said:

Aberdeen aren’t a big club in Scotland? You are just being silly now. 

And the point I was making that you are finding so hard to grasp is on the basis is that for some reason finding some infantile  joy in a celebration of our shitiness is fucking embarrassing. We should have way more pride than that and behaving like that is just reinforcing the arse cheeks opinion  of every other team in Scotland including Aberdeen being to use their vernacular a diddy team. That behaviour simply serves to reinforce and give justification to their position that we are a diddy team. Just because we were playing in a manner befitting that description didn’t mean we had to fucking accept it .

It all depends how you class big. Are we bigger than the Dundee clubs? Yes. Bigger than the Edinburgh clubs? Debatable. Not even close to the Glasgow clubs.

Sad as it is there are 2 fairly big clubs in Scotland. The rest are varying levels of shite.

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Regardless of whether Aberdeen is or isn't a 'Big Club', it's safe to say that, beyond the 1980s and for a while in the 90s, we've done nothing but punch way, way below our weight. 

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The diddyness of Scottish football clubs is summed up by Queens Park being the third most successful club in Scottish Cup history, despite their last trophy win in that tournament being 129 years ago.

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56 minutes ago, zeroisgod76 said:

It all depends how you class big. Are we bigger than the Dundee clubs? Yes. Bigger than the Edinburgh clubs? Debatable. Not even close to the Glasgow clubs.

Sad as it is there are 2 fairly big clubs in Scotland. The rest are varying levels of shite.

That's pretty much the way I have come to see it. The Glasgow pair are on another level in comparison to anything else in Scottish football.  They're miles ahead and moving even further ahead, they have never been so out of sight as they are right now. For everyone else there is no money in Scottish football.

The Glasgow two can and do spend millions on a single player,  will probably do it every Summer window. They can approach £20 million spending between them in a single window. While the rest of Scottish football combined wont even spend 1 million .

There is so little money in Scottish football outside those two it's become probably about as competitive in a sense than it's ever been. We all go on about how Aberdeen have a bigger budget and that should make a difference. The thing is in the economics of the modern game that budget advantage is fractional at best. Either of the Glasgow duo could spend as much or more on a single player than the entire Aberdeen budget.

Our budget advantage is nothing like that level of superiority over the rest in a modern environment where English league 1 sides could pay as much or even more than we do. And we're mostly picking them up from that level on freebies, as is everybody else. And it's hit and miss, a gamble every time. We could pay a hundred grand for a player and Livi could get lucky and get something better for nothing.

Unless the financial conditions of the game change in Scotland this is it for the foreseeable future. There will be good and bad seasons. Some seasons very bad. The only way to get any money at all is to make a Euro group. If Hearts and or Hibs  do that next season we're in an even deeper hole. 

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12 minutes ago, Yorston Vasey said:

The diddyness of Scottish football clubs is summed up by Queens Park being the third most successful club in Scottish Cup history, despite their last trophy win in that tournament being 129 years ago.

They also reached the English cup final twice.

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10 hours ago, Kilgore Trout said:

A shot to the heart ! I’m a man destroyed.

You give love, a bad name.

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8 hours ago, Lan_Lad said:

That's pretty much the way I have come to see it. The Glasgow pair are on another level in comparison to anything else in Scottish football.  They're miles ahead and moving even further ahead, they have never been so out of sight as they are right now. For everyone else there is no money in Scottish football.

The Glasgow two can and do spend millions on a single player,  will probably do it every Summer window. They can approach £20 million spending between them in a single window. While the rest of Scottish football combined wont even spend 1 million .

There is so little money in Scottish football outside those two it's become probably about as competitive in a sense than it's ever been. We all go on about how Aberdeen have a bigger budget and that should make a difference. The thing is in the economics of the modern game that budget advantage is fractional at best. Either of the Glasgow duo could spend as much or more on a single player than the entire Aberdeen budget.

Our budget advantage is nothing like that level of superiority over the rest in a modern environment where English league 1 sides could pay as much or even more than we do. And we're mostly picking them up from that level on freebies, as is everybody else. And it's hit and miss, a gamble every time. We could pay a hundred grand for a player and Livi could get lucky and get something better for nothing.

Unless the financial conditions of the game change in Scotland this is it for the foreseeable future. There will be good and bad seasons. Some seasons very bad. The only way to get any money at all is to make a Euro group. If Hearts and or Hibs  do that next season we're in an even deeper hole. 

It's unfortunate he uses the term 'old firm'. 

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13 hours ago, Byrne Baby Byrne said:

Imagine being raging about a conga 22 years ago

Clear you took part if your not embarrassed.

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26 minutes ago, RUL said:

Clear you took part if your not embarrassed.

I wasn't even at the game. I tend not to give a conga in the year 2000 must thought though. Plenty other things for me to be embarrassed about 

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10 hours ago, Lan_Lad said:

That's pretty much the way I have come to see it. The Glasgow pair are on another level in comparison to anything else in Scottish football.  They're miles ahead and moving even further ahead, they have never been so out of sight as they are right now. For everyone else there is no money in Scottish football.

The Glasgow two can and do spend millions on a single player,  will probably do it every Summer window. They can approach £20 million spending between them in a single window. While the rest of Scottish football combined wont even spend 1 million .

There is so little money in Scottish football outside those two it's become probably about as competitive in a sense than it's ever been. We all go on about how Aberdeen have a bigger budget and that should make a difference. The thing is in the economics of the modern game that budget advantage is fractional at best. Either of the Glasgow duo could spend as much or more on a single player than the entire Aberdeen budget.

Our budget advantage is nothing like that level of superiority over the rest in a modern environment where English league 1 sides could pay as much or even more than we do. And we're mostly picking them up from that level on freebies, as is everybody else. And it's hit and miss, a gamble every time. We could pay a hundred grand for a player and Livi could get lucky and get something better for nothing.

Unless the financial conditions of the game change in Scotland this is it for the foreseeable future. There will be good and bad seasons. Some seasons very bad. The only way to get any money at all is to make a Euro group. If Hearts and or Hibs  do that next season we're in an even deeper hole. 

So, a few things.

1/. Yes.  
2/.  The big two are there through a combination of their own efforts, a more than supportive administration (including apparently all the other clubs) and those two factors combined providing ring fenced success, hence its self fulfilling for them, mutually destructive for the rest of us.

3/.  Worth repeating the collusion of other clubs.  The last 9 years have proved that.

4/.  The budget thing is a bit of a misnomer in a way.  Use Celtic sans the hun as an example.  Could they sell to maximum effect utter dominance over the new club?  No.  Prostituted themselves and the game in general (not that they gave two hoots about the latter) to recreate the myth.

5/.  Don’t like it? Don’t go.  It doesn’t hurt.  Trust me.

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Nice statement from Brown on his instagram.  Basically pushed out....  Wish him all the best.

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15 hours ago, Yorston Vasey said:

The diddyness of Scottish football clubs is summed up by Queens Park being the third most successful club in Scottish Cup history, despite their last trophy win in that tournament being 129 years ago.

How does that compare to Spain?

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15 hours ago, Lan_Lad said:

That's pretty much the way I have come to see it. The Glasgow pair are on another level in comparison to anything else in Scottish football.  They're miles ahead and moving even further ahead, they have never been so out of sight as they are right now. For everyone else there is no money in Scottish football.

The Glasgow two can and do spend millions on a single player,  will probably do it every Summer window. They can approach £20 million spending between them in a single window. While the rest of Scottish football combined wont even spend 1 million .

There is so little money in Scottish football outside those two it's become probably about as competitive in a sense than it's ever been. We all go on about how Aberdeen have a bigger budget and that should make a difference. The thing is in the economics of the modern game that budget advantage is fractional at best. Either of the Glasgow duo could spend as much or more on a single player than the entire Aberdeen budget.

Our budget advantage is nothing like that level of superiority over the rest in a modern environment where English league 1 sides could pay as much or even more than we do. And we're mostly picking them up from that level on freebies, as is everybody else. And it's hit and miss, a gamble every time. We could pay a hundred grand for a player and Livi could get lucky and get something better for nothing.

Unless the financial conditions of the game change in Scotland this is it for the foreseeable future. There will be good and bad seasons. Some seasons very bad. The only way to get any money at all is to make a Euro group. If Hearts and or Hibs  do that next season we're in an even deeper hole. 

Surely the biggest problem we have is the 16% success rate in transfers thats been our biggest downfall. Its always going to be a close to impossible task but I don't think its too much to ask for a 50% plus  success rate from first team recruits. I see no reason why a team with our budget cant be accumulating around 70 points a season. Almost half the league has a wage budget of below 60k per week, we in our last set of books are spending 180k and I suspect its nearer 200k this season. Even our 20% advantage over hearts doesn't sound alot but its still an extra 36k a week which is probably in itself more than Livi's budget. Its not hard to believe the rumours of disgust from Goodwin in regards to the way we have spent our budget.

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57 minutes ago, jamiesd said:

Nice statement from Brown on his instagram.  Basically pushed out....  Wish him all the best.

Wouldn’t surprise me if he’s back as manager in a couple of years 

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1 hour ago, jamiesd said:

Nice statement from Brown on his instagram.  Basically pushed out....  Wish him all the best.

Indeed - wasn't in favour of it when he came, but he did well, now sorry to see him go - all the best  

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55 minutes ago, sigh said:

Indeed - wasn't in favour of it when he came, but he did well, now sorry to see him go - all the best  

Total BS - why not postpone coaching career by 2 months and see the season out?

The season didn't turn out well?  Well it's not over.

Aye his friend was sacked and he was the assistant but come one be the big man and give the fans something, very carefully worded statement from Brown, not sorry to see him go.

 

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1 minute ago, minijc said:

Yes he should have demanded to play when the new manager and some players didn't want him here.

I doubt it was Ramirez that wanted him away based on his social media comments and it wouldn't have been Hayes either. 

The only other potential power base amongst the players would be the McCrorie, Ferguson crowd so I assume it was them that wanted him away? 

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4 minutes ago, Alex Ferguson said:

Total BS - why not postpone coaching career by 2 months and see the season out?

The season didn't turn out well?  Well it's not over.

Aye his friend was sacked and he was the assistant but come one be the big man and give the fans something, very carefully worded statement from Brown, not sorry to see him go.

 

Yes he should have demanded to play when the new manager and some players didn't want him here.

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17 hours ago, Ke1t said:

Regardless of whether Aberdeen is or isn't a 'Big Club', it's safe to say that, beyond the 1980s and for a while in the 90s, we've done nothing but punch way, way below our weight. 

3rd place is nothing but punching way, way below our weight? 
 

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55 minutes ago, aberdeen1970 said:

I doubt it was Ramirez that wanted him away based on his social media comments and it wouldn't have been Hayes either. 

The only other potential power base amongst the players would be the McCrorie, Ferguson crowd so I assume it was them that wanted him away? 

It's about the manager, he wants to play McCrorie, Brown and Barron. Where does Brown fit if those 3 are fit?

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7 minutes ago, RUL said:

It's about the manager, he wants to play McCrorie, Brown and Barron. Where does Brown fit if those 3 are fit?

On the bench. 

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4 hours ago, Millertime said:

How does that compare to Spain?

3rd most successful team is Real Madrid. I think they'll have won the cup a bit more recently than 129 years ago.

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21 hours ago, Rico1903 said:

It's unfortunate he uses the term 'old firm'. 

Yeah, he nicely broke it down into the numbers that count. It's insurmountable. 

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13 hours ago, RUL said:

It's about the manager, he wants to play McCrorie, Brown and Barron.

Where does Brown fit if those 3 are fit?

In between McCrorie and Barron going by what you've written?

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