RedArmyFakshun Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 on another day we'd have won that 3-1, so whatevs what matters is how we set up against the arse cheeks and i think that looks promising Link to comment
Rico1903 Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 1 hour ago, ollie1903 said: I couldn't really give a fuck what people say online, because let's be honest, the vast majority don't have the first clue about the subject they're talking about. So critique away. But to say Campbell was in any way to blame for their goal today stinks, and just makes you sound like the very kind of person I mention above. He is. Link to comment
Tord31 Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 I'm not sure any of the defence/goalie are guilt free on the goal. shambolic Link to comment
redcryptoknight Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 5 hours ago, OddJob said: What did he say about Longstaff like? He said he affected the game, but maybe would have liked to have affected it more. 4 hours ago, Stoneybloke said: If he did single him out for criticism.... <SNIP> Aye, but he didn't, so I edited your post to reflect how useful it was. Link to comment
Oregon Red Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 4 minutes ago, rocket_scientist said: Shocking spill for the Ramirez goal. Embarrassing for a professional keeper. Yes but at least Ramirez was in proper poacher position to take advantage! Link to comment
ABERDEENROWIE1903 Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 We have to start picking up points and wins or Hibs will pull ahead of us The management needs to get the new guys inducted quickly On paper we have a good squad but it matters on the pitch a draw at home against Ross County is not acceptable Hopefully the squad has a both a few days off after a hectic start and travel and also knuckle down in training Link to comment
King Street Loon Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 6 hours ago, ABERDEENROWIE1903 said: We have to start picking up points and wins or Hibs will pull ahead of us The management needs to get the new guys inducted quickly On paper we have a good squad but it matters on the pitch a draw at home against Ross County is not acceptable Hopefully the squad has a both a few days off after a hectic start and travel and also knuckle down in training The advantage Hibs have is that they have a relatively settled squad with little changes from last season (so far, today/tomorrow could change that), have added to that squad and are in form. By and large we've brought good players in I feel, so hopefully the best part of a fortnight on the training pitch will reap rewards. Guess we'll find out at Motherwell. 1 Link to comment
afc1903mad Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 10 hours ago, Millertime said: If I'm wrong and do not know enough tactically, I'll hold my hands up Explain to me why, with Charles cook being marked by campbell... for him to be putting County up 6 seconds later isn't his fault? 9 hours ago, Millertime said: No idea, I'm a football fan, not a master tactician From my perspective, if he stayed on cook who he was with initially, cook wouldn't have scored. Campbells attempt to stop the first shot had no effect anyway, so he may as well have stayed with cook If I'm wrong I'm wrong You are wrong. The root cause following the poor clearance by McCrorie, was because Brown didn't follow his marker and allowed him to be free in the box. Matty Longstaff was close as well, but he was covering the guy that had drifted in from the left wing (might have been Cochrane) Link to comment
BonnieDon Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 7 hours ago, ABERDEENROWIE1903 said: We have to start picking up points and wins or Hibs will pull ahead of us The management needs to get the new guys inducted quickly On paper we have a good squad but it matters on the pitch a draw at home against Ross County is not acceptable Hopefully the squad has a both a few days off after a hectic start and travel and also knuckle down in training Just compare our squads. Aside from Boyle, Nisbett and the much hyped Doig I'm not concerned by what Hibs are up to. I think the international break has come at the right time for us allowing the new players to settle, Glass to work with the team tactically and the players get a much needed rest. Controversial opinion but I'm actually glad we are no longer competing in Europe. We've played 2 games a week for the past 6 weeks. Its had a negative affect on our domestic form. It certainly played it roles in our loss to Raith and dropped points against Hearts and yesterday against Ross County. Hibs have already dropped points against Dundee and will against other teams this season. We just need to focus on ourselves. We are a good side and we'll bounce back. No need to wet the bed yet. Link to comment
BonnieDon Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 I don't feel it was Dean Campbell's fault for the goal but rather the entire team.Campbell was ok yesterday and the criticism is unjust IMO. Ross County were poor but still managed to forge some of the best chances in the game. The team just looked shattered. Ojo really struggled as did Brown. Ramsay and Samuels really caught the eye. That was the best performance I've seen from Joe Lewis in sometime. Link to comment
afc1903mad Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 6 minutes ago, BonnieDon said: Just compare our squads. Aside from Boyle, Nisbett and the much hyped Doig I'm not concerned by what Hibs are up to. I think the international break has come at the right time for us allowing the new players to settle, Glass to work with the team tactically and the players get a much needed rest. Controversial opinion but I'm actually glad we are no longer competing in Europe. We've played 2 games a week for the past 6 weeks. Its had a negative affect on our domestic form. It certainly played it roles in our loss to Raith and dropped points against Hearts and yesterday against Ross County. Hibs have already dropped points against Dundee and will against other teams this season. We just need to focus on ourselves. We are a good side and we'll bounce back. No need to wet the bed yet. Absolutely, one thing I picked up is that the squad have not had much opportunity to work on things between the games. Much more focus has been on the recovery and Glass was looking forward to being able to prepare a bit more in the upcoming games Link to comment
jamiesd Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 Never mind the performance how fecking bad were the officials? Link to comment
Big Hat Logan Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 13 hours ago, Ernie McCracken said: No offence, but heard that sort of thing so many times over the years, and it's just a soundbite to kick the can of criticism down the road. He needs two windows is another one. It’s not, players need to settle and learn how their teammates operate. 10 hours ago, Millertime said: As I said, I praised Campbell last week, so zero agenda And my tone has changed because its the boys dad, yeah, absolutely My opinion hasn't though It's the human element of it all, its not overly nice or pleasant. I held off on commenting on anything Campbell did, good or bad up until last season by which point I deemed him not a youngster anymore It’s almost as if you just post things for attention and when called out you’re an absolute coward ??♂️ As for Campbell I’ve been a long time critic but I would like to see him get a chance in midfield and try to create things. Link to comment
afc1903mad Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 1 minute ago, Big Hat Logan said: It’s not, players need to settle and learn how their teammates operate. It’s almost as if you just post things for attention and when called out you’re an absolute coward ??♂️ As for Campbell I’ve been a long time critic but I would like to see him get a chance in midfield and try to create things. We need our midfield to take it on the half turn and play forward. Far too often we play it the way we are facing, which inevitably meant backwards to defence / Lewis before being passed across. Campbell is neat and tidy, but he is a player that would be good for recycling the ball, but we seem to have a lot of them at the moment, where we only need 1. Link to comment
RUL Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 5 minutes ago, afc1903mad said: We need our midfield to take it on the half turn and play forward. Far too often we play it the way we are facing, which inevitably meant backwards to defence / Lewis before being passed across. Campbell is neat and tidy, but he is a player that would be good for recycling the ball, but we seem to have a lot of them at the moment, where we only need 1. Its not even just the midfielders, ramirez came short and then randomly blasted the ball 30 yards to mccrorie, whilst under absolutely no pressure at all. Im absolutely baffled about us signing Longstaff. Doesn't seem a different way of playing than any of our other midfielders. We need some creativity, goals and pace from midfield. I don't think Campbell, brown, ojo, mcgeouch, ferguson or Longstaff look like being that player Link to comment
Big Hat Logan Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, afc1903mad said: We need our midfield to take it on the half turn and play forward. Far too often we play it the way we are facing, which inevitably meant backwards to defence / Lewis before being passed across. Campbell is neat and tidy, but he is a player that would be good for recycling the ball, but we seem to have a lot of them at the moment, where we only need 1. See I think Campbell would be better at getting the ball wide or a final ball through to someone with some accuracy. I agree with what you are saying to an extent, I just think we should try all our options as it’s currently not working. Link to comment
Ohjimmyjimmy Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 A point against County is a terrible result, they are fucking horrific. A side that will be relegation fodder come end of the season. However that late Ramirez goal hid what was a losers performance both attack and defence. With all our midfielders on we kept the ball well in the middle, which shows that our only decent stat was in possession. Great. Link to comment
StandFree1982 Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 Ross County are a horrible wee diddy team. The amount of time wasting and feigning injury was embarrassing from a top league side. Safe to say I've already decided what team I want relegated this season. (i think they'll do ok, they looked quite dangerous going forward, but that could be more down to us giving them acres of space to play in) Link to comment
afc1903mad Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 11 hours ago, Millertime said: If I'm wrong and do not know enough tactically, I'll hold my hands up Explain to me why, with Charles cook being marked by campbell... for him to be putting County up 6 seconds later isn't his fault? Far too simplistic of thought. I guess you’d prefer for Campbell to not try and cover for Brown not marking his man (Harry Paton) Link to comment
afc1903mad Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 4 minutes ago, Big Hat Logan said: See I think Campbell would be better at getting the ball wide or a final ball through to someone with some accuracy. I agree with what you are saying to an extent, I just think we should try all our options as it’s currently not working. We only need 1 midfielder for that role, which will be Brown. The other midfielders need to be breaking the lines and looking to turn and get at them. For me Campbell might do well to learn from and ultimately replace Brown, but we’re too slow in our play and need to just have the 1 midfielder picking up and recycling the ball at any given time. Link to comment
Sonoftherock Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 5 minutes ago, afc1903mad said: We only need 1 midfielder for that role, which will be Brown. The other midfielders need to be breaking the lines and looking to turn and get at them. For me Campbell might do well to learn from and ultimately replace Brown, but we’re too slow in our play and need to just have the 1 midfielder picking up and recycling the ball at any given time. If we keep Longstaff, Brown and Ferguson (and McGeouch & Ojo!) I think it's time for Campbell to go on loan. Think it's been about 3 or 4 years since his debut and he's still yet to fully break through. Just think at his age, a season on loan, where he's playing week in., week out, could push him on to that next level. At 20 y/o you should be playing every week! Link to comment
redone Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 10 hours ago, Tord31 said: I'm not sure any of the defence/goalie are guilt free on the goal. shambolic I’ve pretty much lost faith in Lewis and think he’s become a liability rather than an asset. But I can’t see how he was at fault in any way for the County goal. Extremely harsh and/or just plain ignorant to blame Campbell , unless defenders are expected to focus only on the opponent they’re marking , even if it means letting another opponent having a free shot at goal from about the penalty spot. McRorie was the most at fault for the absolutely feckless attempt to clear the cross ....succeeded only in teeing the ball up perfectly for the County player to shoot from the penalty spot. And Longstaffe also culpable for either (a)not having the nous to sense the danger posed by the County lad who had the first shot or (b) doing fuck all about it if he did sense the danger And Ramsay could have done more to try to stop the cross coming in Link to comment
afc1903mad Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 1 minute ago, Sonoftherock said: If we keep Longstaff, Brown and Ferguson (and McGeouch & Ojo!) I think it's time for Campbell to go on loan. Think it's been about 3 or 4 years since his debut and he's still yet to fully break through. Just think at his age, a season on loan, where he's playing week in., week out, could push him on to that next level. At 20 y/o you should be playing every week! McGeouch another neat and tidy midfielder, unfortunately didn’t show enough when Brown was rested and should probably be moved on if we can. Link to comment
afc1903mad Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 1 minute ago, redone said: And Longstaffe also culpable for either (a)not having the nous to sense the danger posed by the County lad who had the first shot or (b) doing fuck all about it if he did sense the danger That was Brown’s man. Longstaff was covering the player outside the box (can’t recall if it was Callaghan or Spittal Link to comment
afc1903mad Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 3 minutes ago, Millertime said: Very unfair, photos only give a portion of the story Watch the highlights then. Brown definitely had Paton and then left him Link to comment
DelMonte Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 It was Browns man originally but not sure anyone else can be blamed considering one of our players forgot how to kick a football properly. Horrendous attempt at a clearance. He’s a bomb scare at centre half. 1 Link to comment
afc1903mad Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 4 minutes ago, DelMonte said: It was Browns man originally but not sure anyone else can be blamed considering one of our players forgot how to kick a football properly. Horrendous attempt at a clearance. He’s a bomb scare at centre half. Agreed, not taking anything away from McCrorie should have dealt better with it initially. Our discussion was somebody blaming Campbell and taking it back a stage earlier to the player being free in the box for the initial shot. Link to comment
Tommy Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 McCrorie was the main culprit. Link to comment
Ohjimmyjimmy Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 He’s a bomb scare at centre half. This ^ Link to comment
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