maryhilldon 1,582 Posted September 22, 2021 3 minutes ago, afc1903mad said: I think context and how its delivered is key as well as how well you know the person its being said to. There are many things said in jest that could be taken offensively by others. The world is increasingly swinging towards a nanny state society, whereas we need to find an acceptable balance. Loads of things were said and done as I grew up that are no longer acceptable and rightly so, but lets not be too precious as a society. Absolutely, the hysteria about name calling in the media is ridiculous. I’m just calling out Consis hypocrisy, he’s the first to get up on his high horse about such matters and yet there he is, shouting at a total stranger about their mum being a fat tart. He’s all over the place. 1 Share this post Link to post
afc1903mad 435 Posted September 22, 2021 11 minutes ago, Reed or deed said: Are you accusing me of having a poor sense of humour now? You really are most offensive. I’m reporting you to the thought police. Nah min, it was funny, I gave you a laugh emoji Dinna be precious petal Share this post Link to post
redcryptoknight 105 Posted September 22, 2021 1 hour ago, afc1903mad said: I was not against singing the Ian Durrant takes it up the arse song as a youngster, but wouldn't partake in it now (even though he's a hun ) I know some people experiment when they're younger, but with Ian Durrant? Share this post Link to post
NEM 3,153 Posted September 22, 2021 38 minutes ago, redcryptoknight said: I know some people experiment when they're younger, but with Ian Durrant? I thought Gough was the peado in that hun team? *jokes @Police 1 Share this post Link to post
Byrne Baby Byrne 1,460 Posted September 22, 2021 2 hours ago, afc1903mad said: I think we all change as we grow older and mature. I was not against taking it up the arse as a youngster, but wouldn't partake in it now (even though he's a hun ) Not surprised by this development Share this post Link to post
afc1903mad 435 Posted September 22, 2021 4 minutes ago, Byrne Baby Byrne said: Not surprised by this development still in the immature phase I see Share this post Link to post
redcryptoknight 105 Posted September 22, 2021 28 minutes ago, afc1903mad said: still in the immature phase I see Another great pushback. Share this post Link to post
Reed or deed 823 Posted September 22, 2021 4 hours ago, afc1903mad said: Nah min, it was funny, I gave you a laugh emoji Dinna be precious petal Im only jestin wi ye bud. Share this post Link to post
aberdeen1970 2,406 Posted September 22, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, ConsiCanBoogie1903 said: One is hate speech, by means of a slur. One is not, whilst being unsavoury. You've missed out other points I made. It would be hypocritical if I called him a homophobic slur, and tried to pass it off as a playground insult. Calling him stupid names etc is certainly unsavoury, and definitely you could argue the point it shouldn't be said, but you're doing that thing many anti LGBT folk do, when they bridge a huge gap between two things and declare someone else a hypocrite. Unsavoury comments do not equate to hate speech. For a lot of reasons. Like I say, you could certainly make the argument that you shouldn't be shouting such nonsense at other grown men, but in this case you're doing your usual 2+2=5. Nah Consi It's not up to the person giving out the abuse to decide what is more hurtful. Only the recipient can answer that question. It's maybe better not to practice abuse at all rather than have a pecking order of who it's OK to insult and who it isn't. It's your problem to deal with I'm afraid. Edited September 22, 2021 by aberdeen1970 Share this post Link to post
aberdeen1970 2,406 Posted September 22, 2021 Just now, ConsiCanBoogie1903 said: If I called someone a homophobic slur in public, the likelihood is I'd get charged for hate speech. If I call someone a mink, whilst it might hurt the other person, and in the scenario I described, its unlikely it did, I won't get charged. Whilst Johnny Law isn't always right, there are reasons for that. Namely, no ones been killed, persecuted, or made illegal for being a "mink." A term that takes on different meaning across different parts of the country. A term many use flippantly, to describe a litany of people/things/situations. For example, I think folk who sit and pick their toes, are minks. It's a catch all term used for behaviour you don't like, in Kents case, bring a hun. "Poof" the term MHD used, only has one meaning/intention, to insinuate someone is homosexual, and to suggest that's a bad thing. Whether or not they are is irrelevant. I don't disagree regarding not practicing abuse. That's something we should all strive to, but I'm not perfect. Trying to suggest any disparaging comment at all is also hate speech, along with terms like 'Poof' the N word, and other slurs often used on here, is nonsensical, for hundreds of reasons that will take this conversation long into the night. So in short, mink, whilst not a nice thing to say, and I agree, probably something someone shouldn't say, isn't equivalent to the N word, the term 'poof', 'paki, darkie etc etc that are often used on here. Id think a man in his 50's could see the stark difference and not pretend all insults are the same. You're confusing the legal aspects with the personal aspects. My view is that the personal impact can be just as hurtful so on that basis its better not to go about insulting people if you have any real compassion for other human beings. It's got nothing to do with my age. I've felt that way for decades. Nae sure why you're taking the moral high ground here though. I think you're off piste. Share this post Link to post
Beachend Bootboy 26 Posted September 22, 2021 Fuck me. When did we become a fuckin' nation of cry baby, bed wettin', hurty fee fee ponces? Sticks and stones. Fuckin' words. 1 Share this post Link to post
aberdeen1970 2,406 Posted September 22, 2021 1 minute ago, Beachend Bootboy said: Fuck me. When did we become a fuckin' nation of cry baby, bed wettin', hurty fee fee ponces? Sticks and stones. Fuckin' words. Nobody is a cry baby. Consi thinks he can pick and choose who he hurls abuse at depending on what is legal or not. I just think thats a flawed argument. Nae tears anywhere min. Just a difference of opinion. Share this post Link to post
Millertime 7,197 Posted September 22, 2021 5 minutes ago, aberdeen1970 said: You're confusing the legal aspects with the personal aspects. My view is that the personal impact can be just as hurtful so on that basis its better not to go about insulting people if you have any real compassion for other human beings. It's got nothing to do with my age. I've felt that way for decades. Nae sure why you're taking the moral high ground here though. I think you're off piste. Why are you bothering with him? Share this post Link to post
aberdeen1970 2,406 Posted September 22, 2021 1 minute ago, Millertime said: Why are you bothering with him? I'm nae sure to be honest. We've been down this road a few times before Share this post Link to post
Beachend Bootboy 26 Posted September 22, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, aberdeen1970 said: Nobody is a cry baby. Consi thinks he can pick and choose who he hurls abuse at depending on what is legal or not. I just think thats a flawed argument. Nae tears anywhere min. Just a difference of opinion. I wasn't particularly aiming my comments at any individual on here (tho there are some right fuckin' dreeps here). The fuckin' world is full of fuckin' wet wipe, bubblin' girlies, too ready to get offended by any cuntin' thing. Fuck em. They need to man up. Words don't kill or injure. Edited September 22, 2021 by Beachend Bootboy Share this post Link to post
Roberto 2,339 Posted September 22, 2021 Missed a sitter tonight at training. Was called a useless poof. It was a bad miss tbf. Share this post Link to post
aberdeen1970 2,406 Posted September 22, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, ConsiCanBoogie1903 said: Not necessarily about legality, more so history and context. I made it clear the law is often wrong, and I don't necessarily think it's right to throw people in jail for hate speech, rather try to re-educate them on why what they are saying is stupid and wrong. Kidding on that some words don't carry more weight than others, is you simply denying reality. A guy in his 50's should understand that calling someone a homophobic slur, is definitely worse than me calling a footballer "mink" from the terraces. Whilst I do agree with your overarching point that we should look not to abuse anyone, I can't agree with your false equivalence. A difference of opinion, indeed. Indeed. I wouldn't think about calling someone a mink or a fat cunt. Or a bald cunt or whatever it is you enjoy doing. You would. That's where we differ. Edited September 22, 2021 by aberdeen1970 Share this post Link to post
maryhilldon 1,582 Posted September 23, 2021 8 hours ago, ConsiCanBoogie1903 said: You're doing that thing many anti LGBT folk do I'm not anti LGBT, I don't have a problem with gay people, you've just made that up. You're doing that thing again where you attribute certain viewpoints to the wrong posters. I don't shout insults in public about peoples mums, you do. So I'd suggest you're the one that has to have a word with themselves. Ps. I don't give a fuck about you shouting abuse to Kunt about his fat minky tart of a mum, like I said I was just pointing out your hypocrisy. Share this post Link to post
muttonhumper 1,800 Posted September 23, 2021 9 hours ago, ConsiCanBoogie1903 said: "Poof" the term MHD used, only has one meaning/intention, to insinuate someone is homosexual What absolute bollocks. Batshit crazy. Share this post Link to post
muttonhumper 1,800 Posted September 23, 2021 39 minutes ago, ConsiCanBoogie1903 said: Ok Aye. I know it's ok. You mentalist. Share this post Link to post
Ten Caat 931 Posted September 23, 2021 When I was a kid in primary school, my auld granny from deepest darkest Lanarkshire called farts "poofs". It was unfortunate that she owned a dog that suffered horrendously from vile smelling flatulence. By the time we were about 10 and a bit more worldly wise, she would have my mates and I rolling on the floor saying shit like "oh no, the dog's poofed again" My mother eventually told her why. She was adamant that everyone in her area of her generation referred to farting as poofing 1 Share this post Link to post
thurso 287 Posted September 23, 2021 8 minutes ago, Ten Caat said: When I was a kid in primary school, my auld granny from deepest darkest Lanarkshire called farts "poofs". It was unfortunate that she owned a dog that suffered horrendously from vile smelling flatulence. By the time we were about 10 and a bit more worldly wise, she would have my mates and I rolling on the floor saying shit like "oh no, the dog's poofed again" My mother eventually told her why. She was adamant that everyone in her area of her generation referred to farting as poofing had me on the floor laughing reading this. It’s brightened up my morning no end. i think poofing is now my new word for farting. This will be the best post of the day Share this post Link to post
maryhilldon 1,582 Posted September 23, 2021 7 hours ago, ConsiCanBoogie1903 said: Not about to dig up posts, calling people 'poof' isn't the best way to suggest you don't have a problem with gay people. I didn't call anyone a poof though, I used it as an example of something that would offend you whereas you deem other personal abuse to be ok. Your comprehension skills are sorely lacking. Bored with you now so I'll leave it there. 1 Share this post Link to post
afc1903mad 435 Posted September 23, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, ConsiCanBoogie1903 said: You've called me me a poof plenty times. Weed does make you forget. Bill and Ben the flowerpot men is a bit before my time Edited September 23, 2021 by afc1903mad Share this post Link to post
maryhilldon 1,582 Posted September 23, 2021 22 minutes ago, ConsiCanBoogie1903 said: You've called me me a poof plenty times. I don't believe I have. I've definitely called you an annoying fud though. Share this post Link to post
sooth_stander 385 Posted September 23, 2021 8 hours ago, ConsiCanBoogie1903 said: I've heard it be called 'pluff' Never heard it be called poof, mind I’ve heard it called puffed before. So we’ve got poofed, pluffed and puffed Share this post Link to post
muttonhumper 1,800 Posted September 23, 2021 A poof is a puff in Geordie speak. Thanks to Viz, absolutely applies in NE Scotland now as well. Share this post Link to post
afc1903mad 435 Posted September 24, 2021 15 hours ago, sooth_stander said: I’ve heard it called puffed before. So we’ve got poofed, pluffed and puffed This thread has turned into a load of guff Share this post Link to post
Millertime 7,197 Posted September 24, 2021 On 9/23/2021 at 8:39 AM, Ten Caat said: When I was a kid in primary school, my auld granny from deepest darkest Lanarkshire called farts "poofs". It was unfortunate that she owned a dog that suffered horrendously from vile smelling flatulence. By the time we were about 10 and a bit more worldly wise, she would have my mates and I rolling on the floor saying shit like "oh no, the dog's poofed again" My mother eventually told her why. She was adamant that everyone in her area of her generation referred to farting as poofing My granny had a poofy Well, she called it that but it was essentially a foot stool Actually, is that "puffet"? Share this post Link to post