Stephen Glass: What should we do?

[jamiesd 132]

Glass will have plenty shoulders to lean on and plenty numbers to call.  At the end of the day he makes the final decisions.  I personally don't think he has long left in post if things stay the same.  .   i'd of had Willie Miller onboard last season in a part time player recruitment/scouting  role.  He's been to lots of matches over the years and could maybe pick out a couple of players around Scotland on the cheap.   Maybe thats my heart overriding my mind a bit.  Its just a real fucking mess at the moment.

Doddsey has done well at Caley.  Was that him or the foundations left by John Robertson?  Maybe he could be pulled in as a consultant or something.

 

Just read this back.........what a load of shite i can spik.....

 

[sooth_stander 385]

12 minutes ago, jamiesd said:

Glass will have plenty shoulders to lean on and plenty numbers to call.  At the end of the day he makes the final decisions.  I personally don't think he has long left in post if things stay the same.  .   i'd of had Willie Miller onboard last season in a part time player recruitment/scouting  role.  He's been to lots of matches over the years and could maybe pick out a couple of players around Scotland on the cheap.   Maybe thats my heart overriding my mind a bit.  Its just a real fucking mess at the moment.

Doddsey has done well at Caley.  Was that him or the foundations left by John Robertson?  Maybe he could be pulled in as a consultant or something.

Just read this back.........what a load of shite i can spik.....

Your point stands though; somebody like Willie would have been a great appointment.

Instead of hiring Apolloo and Steven Gunn, a older coach with AFC connections (or not as the case may be) could have been employed to do both that job and that of DoF. It’s illogical to comprehend why DC went down a different route.

[aberdeen1970 2,406]

1 minute ago, sooth_stander said:

Your point stands though; somebody like Willie would have been a great appointment.

Instead of hiring Apolloo and Steven Gunn, a older coach with AFC connections (or not as the case may be) could have been employed to do both that job and that of DoF. It’s illogical to comprehend why DC went down a different route.

A mixture of arrogance, naivety and being over enamoured by all things American. 

[starryfish 79]

9 minutes ago, sooth_stander said:

Your point stands though; somebody like Willie would have been a great appointment.

Instead of hiring Apolloo and Steven Gunn, a older coach with AFC connections (or not as the case may be) could have been employed to do both that job and that of DoF. It’s illogical to comprehend why DC went down a different route.

Someone like Neil Simpson? Haven't seen him sitting on the bench recently as he was doing earlier in the season.

[muttonhumper 1,800]

5 hours ago, Ten Caat said:

As long as Cormack is absolutely upfront with his reason for bulleting Glass.......ie he admits it was a bit of an experiment which sadly has not worked out and that it is in everyone's interest to end that experiment now then i can't see any reason why any other candidates wouldn't want to join up.

Mon ti fuck min.

Fit we think the chances are o' that happening?

 

 

1 hour ago, aberdeen1970 said:

Henry Apaloo. 

Previous experience coaching at Atlanta 2. Still completing his coaching qualifications. 

Why was he added to the coaching team that had Glass and an specialist attacking coach? What's he bringing to the party that a qualified, experienced coach wouldn't have brought? 

Fwendship.

Stephen's fwend.

[sooth_stander 385]

19 minutes ago, starryfish said:

Someone like Neil Simpson? Haven't seen him sitting on the bench recently as he was doing earlier in the season.

What would count against Simmie in my eyes would be his complete lack of dug out experience. You want some fucker whose been there and done that, in the managers chair, experienced the highs and the lows, and could therefore have a quiet word in the manager’s lug when required. More Andy Watson than Neil Simpson.

Edited October 5, 2021 by sooth_stander

[aberdeen1970 2,406]

3 minutes ago, sooth_stander said:

What would count against Simmie in my eyes would be his complete lack of dug out experience. You want some fucker whose been there and done that, the highs and the lows, quiet word in the managers lug. More Andy Watson than Neil Simpson.

Aye, as much as I love Simmie his area of specialism is youth coaching. 

We need someone with current coaching experience at first team level. 

[Redmist1903 320]

15 minutes ago, aberdeen1970 said:

We need someone with current coaching experience at first team level. 

Get on the blower to Big Yogi.

[ericblack4boss 480]

8 minutes ago, Redmist1903 said:

Get on the blower to Big Yogi.

Hope to fuck the network is down that day

[ABERDEENROWIE1903 72]

3 hours ago, Redmist1903 said:

Get on the blower to Big Yogi.

Heaven forbid Hughes even got a look in at our club

We cannot be that desperate 

[Ernie McCracken 763]

That's one  of the unique things about the current situation. Glass is so far out of his depth, that people can literally  put forward any name for manager without sounding ridiculous. 

[Ten Caat 931]

7 hours ago, sooth_stander said:

I’ve seen mention of Callum Davidson and Jim Goodwin. Both good managers who would return us to where we SHOULD be.

But, would they accept an offer from AFC? Both have emotional ties to their respective clubs and I doubt Davidson would leave what he currently has, to come here. He could jump to England already, without the need for an additional stepping stone here.

Goodwin might, but a lot would depend on the proposed support network around him; recruitment etc. That has to be sorted out at the same time, before offers were made

They'd both at the very minimum double their current wages. And receive a playing budget they could only currently dream about.

Neither would say no

[WesthillWanderersFC 910]

Even the normally placid local press are questioning Glass in this article. 
 

https://twitter.com/ee_sport/status/1445426195525296131?s=21

[aberdeen1970 2,406]

Difficult to disagree with any of that. 

[WesthillWanderersFC 910]

19 minutes ago, aberdeen1970 said:

Difficult to disagree with any of that. 

Exactly. 
And a bit unusual for the EE to be so critical & frank?

The more I think about it the more Dundee could be make or break. 
 

[SDY 9]

We can't wait long enough for Glass to leave us with no option but a stabilising SPFL manager to take us back just to where McInnes had us. Will set us back years. Get him out now and we can afford to make an ambitious appointment. 

[RED_JOHN 109]

7 hours ago, aberdeen1970 said:

Probably keeps in touch with Mowbray, seems to think highly of him. 

That’s where he must be going wrong. Who wants to take advice from that numpty is beyond me. Better listening to Tony the Tiger than Mowbray…..he has some grrrreat advice.

[RED_JOHN 109]

53 minutes ago, SDY said:

We can't wait long enough for Glass to leave us with no option but a stabilising SPFL manager to take us back just to where McInnes had us. Will set us back years. Get him out now and we can afford to make an ambitious appointment. 

Disco Dave can afford to make an ambitious appointment. He just vastly underestimated the league and hired a very inexperienced management team and a wet behind the ears director of football. 
If he wants to sack Glass and let the applications role in again then all he has to do is ask me to have a look. I am fairly confident I can pick someone better than he and his chums on the board did.

Edited October 5, 2021 by RED_JOHN

[Ke1t 4,147]

I think it would be better from a PR point of view if Cormack just said of any future appointments, 'I'm appointing who I feel like appointing, again. There's no interview process.'

Rather than lying about all the potential candidates, and claiming Glass was somehow the best of the bunch. 

We're not all fucking idiots, and being treated like we are is a bit annoying, to say the least. 

[Dons79 110]

3 hours ago, Ernie McCracken said:

That's one  of the unique things about the current situation. Glass is so far out of his depth, that people can literally  put forward any name for manager without sounding ridiculous. 

A want in Pedro caixinha and his bushes

[fine-n-dandy 930]

3 hours ago, Ten Caat said:

They'd both at the very minimum double their current wages. And receive a playing budget they could only currently dream about.

Neither would say no

I doubt they would say no either.

Goodwin would likely relish the pressure of being the next manager following Fergies path from St Mirren. Plus he has a similar attitude, even if a bit nicer/softer

Davidson would likely see that he probably isn’t going to have a better season than he did last season at St’s & his budget probably hasn’t really increased much (if any) even after cup wins & player sales due to covering Covid costs.

 

Both maybe would prefer a crack down south but I think if we went for either, they would struggle to say no unless they had a decent offer from down south at time.

Not sure which of the two I would prefer in all honesty but my gut says Goodwin. Just because I think he tries to play slightly better football than Davidson & I think him/his attitude combined with Scot Browns would be quite solid mentally 

 

Goodwin was my pick before Glass anyway & before Davidson had his purple patch (be it an amazing achievement) with St Johnstone in cups.

I think Goodwin is slightly better manager yet still (somewhat) flying under the radar with many

Edited October 5, 2021 by fine-n-dandy

[Guest]

22 minutes ago, Ke1t said:

I think it would be better from a PR point of view if Cormack just said of any future appointments, 'I'm appointing who I feel like appointing, again. There's no interview process.'

Rather than lying about all the potential candidates, and claiming Glass was somehow the best of the bunch. 

We're not all fucking idiots, and being treated like we are is a bit annoying, to say the least. 

Yeah. 
 

I think we were all excited for change and accepted he was lying, but with the hope it would work out anyway. 
 

It isn't/hasn't and he needs called out for it. He's been brilliant for fan engagement etc but the footballing decisions thus far leave a lot to be desired. 
 

 

[virtualmontana 47]

Davie - shits fucked and on its way to be badly fucked.

Time for Plan B.

[Ernie McCracken 763]

3 minutes ago, virtualmontana said:

Davie - shits fucked and on its way to be badly fucked.

Time for Plan B.

Yup. Despite the fact that he's a musician by trade and not a football manager, he'd still do a better job than Glass. 

[WesthillWanderersFC 910]

30 minutes ago, fine-n-dandy said:

I doubt they would say no either.

Goodwin would likely relish the pressure of being the next manager following Fergies path from St Mirren. Plus he has a similar attitude, even if a bit nicer/softer

Davidson would likely see that he probably isn’t going to have a better season than he did last season at St’s & his budget probably hasn’t really increased much (if any) even after cup wins & player sales due to covering Covid costs.

 

Both maybe would prefer a crack down south but I think if we went for either, they would struggle to say no unless they had a decent offer from down south at time.

Not sure which of the two I would prefer in all honesty but my gut says Goodwin. Just because I think he tries to play slightly better football than Davidson & I think him/his attitude combined with Scot Browns would be quite solid mentally 

 

Goodwin was my pick before Glass anyway & before Davidson had his purple patch (be it an amazing achievement) with St Johnstone in cups.

I think Goodwin is slightly better manager yet still (somewhat) flying under the radar with many

Not sure about Goodwin. His first win this season was their Collum induced win against us. (And he signed Curtis Main). 

…. as was St Johnstone’s win against us their first win

… and Celtics win was their first win away in 8 months….

Next up? Dundee… who haven’t won in the league this season.  

[WesthillWanderersFC 910]

3 hours ago, Ernie McCracken said:

That's one  of the unique things about the current situation. Glass is so far out of his depth, that people can literally  put forward any name for manager without sounding ridiculous. 

Arthur Askey 

[Ernie McCracken 763]

3 minutes ago, WesthillWanderersFC said:

Arthur Askey 

Good shout 

[fine-n-dandy 930]

2 hours ago, WesthillWanderersFC said:

Not sure about Goodwin. His first win this season was their Collum induced win against us. (And he signed Curtis Main). 

…. as was St Johnstone’s win against us their first win

… and Celtics win was their first win away in 8 months….

Next up? Dundee… who haven’t won in the league this season.  

Even still. Lil bit of perspective looking at what is expected from either club.

Goodwin done a decent job on level playing field (similar budgets) before St Mirren took chance on him, got part timers promoted to championship & then kept them there & had a 40% win rate with them & (let’s be honest here) St Mirren are exactly the type of club Main would/should be expected to go to from Motherwell rather than us. They are limited on who they can get & Main was pretty much their limit. Main signing for them is not a big deal but signing for us was a disgrace. I can excuse Goodwin for trying to polish that turd with fk all funds.

St Johnstone lost arguably two of their most influential players & were always going to struggle to replace them on their budgets (we struggle to do same with far bigger budget) the cup record for Davidson probably has him as better than Goodwin at first glance in terms of who’s the better manager but (imo) Goodwin is the better of two but flying under radar 

 

[BIG FAN 22]

This page should be taken down ,it’s not doing anyone any good.

 

[milne_afc 1,755]

20 minutes ago, BIG FAN said:

This page should be taken down ,it’s not doing anyone any good.

 

No way. It highlights the incompetence of DC very well.