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2 minutes ago, WesthillWanderersFC said:

The thing is, a bidding war is a total myth.

Cubs will just match a fee. The bidding war only applies to the terms offered to the player.

Once we accept an offer, another club isn’t going to come in & up that offer, they’ll just try & pay Ramsay a higher salary. 

Sort of. But more clubs interested gives us more scope to turn down early offers in the hope that a better offer will come in. 

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5 minutes ago, Byrne Baby Byrne said:

On another note, its all fun everyone naming these big transfer fees. But prepared to be disappointed... wonder what the record fee for an uncapped Scottish footballer in the SPFL is?

Those saying things like £6 to £10 million need to get realistic. Our record transfer fee received is £3 million for Scott McKenna. He had played for and captained the national team on a few occasions and we still only got £3 million.

If we get £3.75 million for an uncapped 18 year old who hasn't even played a full season of professional first team football then we will have done well.

Yes we all want the fee to be much higher but prepare to be disappointed as Byrne Baby Byrne says.

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1 minute ago, torry_battery_ram said:

Those saying things like £6 to £10 million need to get realistic. Our record transfer fee received is £3 million for Scott McKenna. He had played for and captained the national team on a few occasions and we still only got £3 million.

If we get £3.75 million for an uncapped 18 year old who hasn't even played a full season of professional first team football then we will have done well.

Yes we all want the fee to be much higher but prepare to be disappointed as Byrne Baby Byrne says.

In which case, why don't we just keep him then? 

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8 minutes ago, torry_battery_ram said:

Those saying things like £6 to £10 million need to get realistic. Our record transfer fee received is £3 million for Scott McKenna. He had played for and captained the national team on a few occasions and we still only got £3 million.

If we get £3.75 million for an uncapped 18 year old who hasn't even played a full season of professional first team football then we will have done well.

Yes we all want the fee to be much higher but prepare to be disappointed as Byrne Baby Byrne says.

What has what our previous transfer fee got to do with it. 
 

He’s contracted for two more years and unless he wants to go desperately we should play hard ball. hes 18 he might not want to leave and want to stay close to home and be in no rush to leave. 

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26 minutes ago, Byrne Baby Byrne said:

At least we aren't as grim as we were 10 years ago. Must have got about 700k for Grimmer, Fyvie & Fraser combined. Such a shame we only saw Ryan Fraser for about 5 months. He was actually unreal in that half season.

On another note, its all fun everyone naming these big transfer fees. But prepared to be disappointed... wonder what the record fee for an uncapped Scottish footballer in the SPFL is?

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/scottish-premiership/transferrekorde/wettbewerb/SC1/plus//galerie/0?saison_id=alle&land_id=190&ausrichtung=&spielerposition_id=alle&altersklasse=&leihe=&w_s=&zuab=0

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36 minutes ago, Byrne Baby Byrne said:

At least we aren't as grim as we were 10 years ago. Must have got about 700k for Grimmer, Fyvie & Fraser combined. Such a shame we only saw Ryan Fraser for about 5 months. He was actually unreal in that half season.

On another note, its all fun everyone naming these big transfer fees. But prepared to be disappointed... wonder what the record fee for an uncapped Scottish footballer in the SPFL is?

Ryan jack was awsome when he played for us. Went to England and his game changed completely 

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22 minutes ago, thurso said:

What has what our previous transfer fee got to do with it. 
 

He’s contracted for two more years and unless he wants to go desperately we should play hard ball. hes 18 he might not want to leave and want to stay close to home and be in no rush to leave. 

Totally agree we should play hard ball. The point I was trying to make about our record fee was McKenna had a lot more experience both domestically and internationally and still only went for £3 million so it's unrealistic of those on here thinking we should be getting between £6 to £10 million for a 18 year old with no international caps and less than half a season of domestic football.

I would prefer if we held on to Ramsay for a year or 2 and see how he develops as he is a real talent but realistically if we were to sell him this month then I would be surprised if it was anything above £3.75 million to £4 million.

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2 hours ago, super_al said:

Asking price is 4.5 million according to the Italian press.

 

https://www.tuttobolognaweb.it/news/carlino-ramsay-costa-4-5-milioni-rangers-su-skov-olsen/

He should have a bowl of bolognese and plate of chips , and stay with the dons for another year.  Aberdeen FC should tell the Italians to get stuffed with their offer. (If it’s 3.5 million euros.)    

 

 

 

 

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57 minutes ago, torry_battery_ram said:

Those saying things like £6 to £10 million need to get realistic. Our record transfer fee received is £3 million for Scott McKenna. He had played for and captained the national team on a few occasions and we still only got £3 million.

If we get £3.75 million for an uncapped 18 year old who hasn't even played a full season of professional first team football then we will have done well.

Yes we all want the fee to be much higher but prepare to be disappointed as Byrne Baby Byrne says.

The McKenna situation is completely different as he'd handed in a transfer request previously so was obviously keen to get away. Clubs know that so we never going to get a proper fee for him. 

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3 hours ago, brownie said:

Laughably low figure. If we are looking at under £4m as our asking price then you might as well turn the lights off.

Exactly if Cormack deals at that price or lowers hes completely lost my backing!

1 hour ago, WesthillWanderersFC said:

The thing is, a bidding war is a total myth.

Cubs will just match a fee. The bidding war only applies to the terms offered to the player.

Once we accept an offer, another club isn’t going to come in & up that offer, they’ll just try & pay Ramsay a higher salary. 

I don't know how it works but im assuming if you accept a 5m bid and someone bids 5.5m you're entitled to be a shitehouse and reject the previous offer you accepted. What we really want is a club to bid 4m and we reject it. That would set the ball rolling.

1 hour ago, Byrne Baby Byrne said:

At least we aren't as grim as we were 10 years ago. Must have got about 700k for Grimmer, Fyvie & Fraser combined. Such a shame we only saw Ryan Fraser for about 5 months. He was actually unreal in that half season.

On another note, its all fun everyone naming these big transfer fees. But prepared to be disappointed... wonder what the record fee for an uncapped Scottish footballer in the SPFL is?

You expect a player that has just turned 18 to have International caps? I wouldn't hold that against him at his age. 

 

38 minutes ago, Byrne Baby Byrne said:

Andy Robertson 3.25mill. In the Scotland set up and a couple years older.

Ramsay do well to have half the career!

Robertson didn't look half the player Ramsay has done in Scotland. He went to Hull FFS. His rise however has been incredible. People are seeing Ramsay and expecting him to go to the top. I dont remember anyone saying that about Robertson at the time.

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33 minutes ago, slippers said:

 

Exactly if Cormack deals at that price or lowers hes completely lost my backing!

I don't know how it works but im assuming if you accept a 5m bid and someone bids 5.5m you're entitled to be a shitehouse and reject the previous offer you accepted. What we really want is a club to bid 4m and we reject it. That would set the ball rolling.

You expect a player that has just turned 18 to have International caps? I wouldn't hold that against him at his age. 

 

Robertson didn't look half the player Ramsay has done in Scotland. He went to Hull FFS. His rise however has been incredible. People are seeing Ramsay and expecting him to go to the top. I dont remember anyone saying that about Robertson at the time.

Why would a club offer more money when we’d already accepted a bid? There’s no need for them to do so. 

They’d just use that extra cash on the player.

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3 hours ago, super_al said:

Asking price is 4.5 million according to the Italian press.

 

https://www.tuttobolognaweb.it/news/carlino-ramsay-costa-4-5-milioni-rangers-su-skov-olsen/

Aye cos Cormack always gets on the blower to the Italian press any time we are looking to sell a player and lets them know our asking price

2 hours ago, WesthillWanderersFC said:

The thing is, a bidding war is a total myth.

Cubs will just match a fee. The bidding war only applies to the terms offered to the player.

Once we accept an offer, another club isn’t going to come in & up that offer, they’ll just try & pay Ramsay a higher salary. 

No it isn't.....it's just a game of bluff and being totally self interested. If club x bids £4 million we tell them we'll consider it and get back to them in few days. Meanwhile club y somehow get wind and also bid £4 million you just tell club y that "we will only accept an offer of a minimum £500k higher from you. You can fuck off if you don't like it"

If they don't like it and do fuck off we are no worse off.

Meanwhile we are saying to club x that club y are interested and maybe you should increase your offer just in case they make a higher offer.

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1 minute ago, Ten Caat said:

Aye cos Cormack always gets on the blower to the Italian press any time we are looking to sell a player and lets them know our asking price

No it isn't.....it's just a game of bluff and being totally self interested. If club x bids £4 million we tell them we'll consider it and get back to them in few days. Meanwhile club y somehow get wind and also bid £4 million you just tell club y that "we will only accept an offer of a minimum £500k higher from you. You can fuck off if you don't like it"

If they don't like it and do fuck off we are no worse off.

Meanwhile we are saying to club x that club y are interested and maybe you should increase your offer just in case they make a higher offer.

And if its the Huns you just tell them to fuck off and don't come back 

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3 hours ago, AyrshireSheep said:

As someone put up on Twitter earlier if we deal at anything like the mental figures quoted online (3.75-4m) then the club really shouldn't ever complain about finances again. Ramsay is like a golden nugget. The sort of player that only ever comes through an academy once every few years. It would be criminal to sell him for that sort of fee. 

Yeah. The club can fk right off if they sell him for a meagre £1m more than that of McKenna & to a top flight club also. 
Ramsay is a far bigger asset than McKenna ever was/will be. 
 

he is easily on par with potential of likes of Tierney/Robertson at same ages if not way better so we’d better not be a shitey wee club & accept that pittance for him

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1 hour ago, AyrshireSheep said:

The McKenna situation is completely different as he'd handed in a transfer request previously so was obviously keen to get away. Clubs know that so we never going to get a proper fee for him. 

Aye as has Ferguson. 
Cunt agents keeping clubs like Aberdeen down. Can’t have them getting fees like the arse cheeks get because then the arse cheeks couldn’t steal their players in future 

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Probably went something like this.

 

He will go for a club record fee.

 

? record fee is £3m

 

so at least £4m 

 

Ramsay is valued at £4m read all about it

 

 

 

Cormack needs to come out & stress he doesn’t know who first came up with this mythical £4m but it is BS & Ramsay will be sold for much more than this or held on to

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35 minutes ago, fine-n-dandy said:

Probably went something like this.

 

He will go for a club record fee.

 

? record fee is £3m

 

so at least £4m 

 

Ramsay is valued at £4m read all about it

 

 

 

Cormack needs to come out & stress he doesn’t know who first came up with this mythical £4m but it is BS & Ramsay will be sold for much more than this or held on to

He really doesn't need to come out and say anything. If he does come out and debunk banding the £4m figure about he will only be asked "well what sort of figure DO you put on him?"

Best just to 'stress' fuck all and let the suitors do the thinking and let them come up with a price they believe can secure his services.

Nothing like taking any opportunity to berate the chairman over something you have zero proof that he may, or most likely never, said.

You mentioned the probable source yourself - the west coast media who would hate for Aberdeen to secure a massive transfer fee. Since when have they EVER talked up an Aberdeen player for a huge valuation ?

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1 hour ago, WesthillWanderersFC said:

Why would a club offer more money when we’d already accepted a bid? There’s no need for them to do so. 

They’d just use that extra cash on the player.

So they are the only club that can offer him a contract….. if they are serious enough in wanting him they would be the highest bidder so other clubs couldn’t offer him a contract. The money will eventually get to a ceiling and that’s where all bids are matched and it’s fair game. 

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51 minutes ago, fine-n-dandy said:

Probably went something like this.

 

He will go for a club record fee.

 

? record fee is £3m

 

so at least £4m 

 

Ramsay is valued at £4m read all about it

 

 

 

Cormack needs to come out & stress he doesn’t know who first came up with this mythical £4m but it is BS & Ramsay will be sold for much more than this or held on to

Unfortunately we haven’t received a genuine bid from anyone yet. I don’t want the lad to go and as you say if Cormack has let the press know £4m is acceptable then he has went about it the wrong way. 
It will be interesting to wait until nearer the end of the transfer window especially if English clubs do ask the question about the availability of the player. Bleed them dry should be our thinking…make them pay a huge fee if they want our star player.

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