January 2022 transfer window

[Don_Corleone 339]

12 hours ago, BonnieDon said:

So far we've been linked with Josh Koroma, Jamie McGrath, Ryan Broom, Zander Clark, Conor McGrandles and David Odumosu.

Hopefully most of these names are a smokescreen to divert attention away from the real targets. 

Would like to get McGrath, and happy enough with Clark.

The boy Koroma has at least played at a decent level recently and done well so he might do a job on loan. 

Broom and McGrandles are journeyman crap we can do without. 

[Scotty_Toronto 535]

21 hours ago, shooftahmooftah said:

Don’t tell me another  Vietnam sergeant hero.  

Other than your post, it's the only other place I can recall hearing that term.

[ShinnieFGS 14]

There's always one performance where a bad player really shows you how bad they actually are. Gurr's was Raith away in the cup. 

Managers at Glass' level shouldn't be getting conned by the pace smokescreen.

 

 

[NEM 3,163]

He was decent enough first half tbf.  Second period was a holocaust of a performance 

[Don_Corleone 339]

End of another week... pretty much zero activity in the transfer market and only a few rumours dotting about...

Any chance of a wee Friday afternoon update from Mainstandmoan...? 

[Kiriakov33 64]

Probably a waiting game at the moment. A lot of our activity will be dependant on acceptable bids coming in for any of our players.  In a perfect world any business would be done early but the reality is it very rarely happens.  If we agree a fee for any of our players it’s likely to kick start the incomings.  Hopefully they are all lined up.  

[The Gee Man 130]

Already stated players must go! No one really gone yet. It will be last few days of window I reckon 

[aberdeen1970 2,406]

I'm sure someone will be able to explain why other clubs are able to bring in players during the first half of January but for some reason we can't. 

Why are we any different?  Hibs haven't sold anyone yet but have brought in 4 or 5 for example. 

[ThomohawkKid 184]

2 minutes ago, aberdeen1970 said:

I'm sure someone will be able to explain why other clubs are able to bring in players during the first half of January but for some reason we can't. 

Why are we any different?  Hibs haven't sold anyone yet but have brought in 4 or 5 for example. 

Hibs probably have a considerable lower wage budget all in just now so can get signings in as a bit extra to spend.

Edited January 14 by ThomohawkKid

[aberdeen1970 2,406]

5 minutes ago, ThomohawkKid said:

Hibs probably have a considerable lower wage budget so can get signings in

Aye but if you know you are likely to be selling Hedges and it's just a case of negotiating a fee you can factor that in so you don't lose out on targets in the interim period.  

Always waiting for players to move out before bringing players in just increases the risk that we won't be able to secure appropriate replacements, particularly in January when you've only got 4 weeks to play with. 

I'm sure Hibs plan to sell someone during this window but they will be doing it with reinforcements already in the building. 

 

Edited January 14 by aberdeen1970

[WesthillWanderersFC 909]

That moment when you get a Twitter update from the Dons about a signing… for the women’s team 

Boring 

[Kiriakov33 64]

3 minutes ago, aberdeen1970 said:

Aye but if you know you are likely to be selling Hedges and it's just a case of negotiating a fee you can factor that in so you don't lose out on targets in the interim period.  

Always waiting for players to move out before bringing players in just increases the risk that we won't be able to secure appropriate replacements, particularly in January when you've only got 4 weeks to play with. 

I'm sure Hibs plan to sell someone during this window but they will be doing it with reinforcements already in the building. 

 

We are only likely to sell a player if a  club meets our valuation.  That hasn’t happened yet.  The danger of signing players in the hope that someone is sold is a bit of a gamble.  You may also get more cash for a player if you do sell so then you can go out and get a better quality player.  

[aberdeen1970 2,406]

5 minutes ago, Kiriakov33 said:

We are only likely to sell a player if a  club meets our valuation.  That hasn’t happened yet.  The danger of signing players in the hope that someone is sold is a bit of a gamble.  You may also get more cash for a player if you do sell so then you can go out and get a better quality player.  

It's balancing the risk, aye 

[AyrshireSheep 161]

23 minutes ago, The Gee Man said:

Already stated players must go! No one really gone yet. It will be last few days of window I reckon 

Yes he stated players had to leave. 2 have already gone, Gurr likely to leave, Campbell looks like he's going to Killie on loan, Hedges probably gone. There's no way what we are paying Polvara is anywhere close to what we contributed towards the wages of Samuels and Longstaff. The club needs to be proactive especially after the poor summer window. We are being reactive and generally leaves you with the scraps. He said he wants to come out the window stronger. We certainly aren't that just now. And all the "get the business done early" limes doesn't exactly fill me with confidence. 

[shooftahmooftah 1,482]

Cormack the window is half closed , get your ass into gear and sign some super dudes before it closes shut.  If you don’t you will look like a .

[YorkDon 227]

I see some are starting to pish the bed already.

 

[slippers 257]

20 minutes ago, YorkDon said:

I see some are starting to pish the bed already.

 

We have 4 games in January to play if we don’t win at least 3 of them it’s completely unacceptable. Good to see we are shredding all the shite but we need to see a few quality new faces as soon a possible. 

[AyrshireSheep 161]

28 minutes ago, YorkDon said:

I see some are starting to pish the bed already.

 

It's not that at all. Firstly the chairman says "we definitely don't need to sell anyone". Then the manager says "players need to leave before anyone comes in". Which is it? We've already punted 2 and brought in 1. Who will be on a relatively small wage. The chairman said he takes up part of the "emerging talent budget" whatever the fuck that is. So if the squad is bloated that's on the manager. He signed 11 players in the summer and probably only 4 can be classed as regular contributors to the team in Ramirez, Brown, Bates and Watkins. Signing the likes of Gurr, Samuels was just a joke. We can now add Longstaff to that since we know how pish he actually was. As fans we just don't want to see the club left behind. Hopefully we can still make this a good window.  

[thurso 287]

57 minutes ago, AyrshireSheep said:

Yes he stated players had to leave. 2 have already gone, Gurr likely to leave, Campbell looks like he's going to Killie on loan, Hedges probably gone. There's no way what we are paying Polvara is anywhere close to what we contributed towards the wages of Samuels and Longstaff. The club needs to be proactive especially after the poor summer window. We are being reactive and generally leaves you with the scraps. He said he wants to come out the window stronger. We certainly aren't that just now. And all the "get the business done early" limes doesn't exactly fill me with confidence. 

We’re not any stronger yet but we’re also not any weaker at the moment, if we loose a couple of first team players and don’t sign anyone then I’d be worried  

[Simosmashed my knee 25]

Josh Koroma sounds a better quality signing than Basil Brush from Plymouth

[Don_Corleone 339]

39 minutes ago, YorkDon said:

I see some are starting to pish the bed already.

 

We've seen this movie before... giving it all the chat about doing business early, looking to strengthen... then half way through the window nothing's happened and we start hearing need to move people out before anything happens whilst at the same time saying we don't need to sell anyone... linked with endless guff journeymen from the lower leagues in England, and overrated youngsters from down south who've never played a professional game... 

What inevitably happens next is we end up getting to the last few days of the window and panic signing a whole load of utter cack in the wrong positions.

Why not just come to an agreement to sell Hedges now, rather than faffing about until the day the window closes just for the sake of an extra £50k or something. We've probably wasted that much on Jack Gurr's wages over the past year. Just let him go, take the £150K or whatever Blackburn are offering NOW, and use it to sign someone else - McGrath for example. Holding out for an extra few quid for a guy who wants to leave anyway is daft, especially if it's going to prevent us bringing in our first choice replacement. Same with Ferguson - I think we should let him go in this window, he's been wanting away for at least a year now and his value is probably as high as it's going to be - take £3m if someone's offering it NOW, and get the ball rolling on spending some of the money on other players who can come in and strengthen the team. 

[AyrshireSheep 161]

2 minutes ago, thurso said:

We’re not any stronger yet but we’re also not any weaker at the moment, if we loose a couple of first team players and don’t sign anyone then I’d be worried  

I agree we aren't weaker but i just think we've missed a trick not getting players in by now and getting them integrated into our way of playing. Of course it's maybe not for the want of trying but with games now coming rather quickly any incoming players will need to hit the ground running straight away. 

[ThomohawkKid 184]

6 minutes ago, thurso said:

We’re not any stronger yet but we’re also not any weaker at the moment, if we loose a couple of first team players and don’t sign anyone then I’d be worried  

If Watkins is out for the season as rumoured we are definitely weaker but if he’s fine we’re sound. As I said on another thread he looked brand new clubbing wae JET

[Ten Caat 931]

46 minutes ago, YorkDon said:

I see some are starting to pish the bed already.

 

Perfectly entitled to be concerned

Half the window gone and ONE new face signed.....one that apparently isn't even on the same continent as the club yet and even if he was isn't likely to feature as a starter until at least next season and might not even make many, if any, appearances from the bench.

As has been stated by others.....who is telling the truth, the manager or the chairman regarding our need to move players on or not before making additions?

Leaving things to the last minute tends not to turn out too well. McGrath would have been a Hibs player already if they hadn't left things too late last summer. And we  might end up with similar quality to what we ended up with last January if we fart about....look how that went for us.

 

[super_al 279]

2 minutes ago, ThomohawkKid said:

If Watkins is out for the season as rumoured we are definitely weaker but if he’s fine we’re sound. As I said on another thread he looked brand new clubbing wae JET

The papers said this week that Watkins is out for a few weeks.

[Ten Caat 931]

7 minutes ago, Don_Corleone said:

We've seen this movie before... giving it all the chat about doing business early, looking to strengthen... then half way through the window nothing's happened and we start hearing need to move people out before anything happens whilst at the same time saying we don't need to sell anyone... linked with endless guff journeymen from the lower leagues in England, and overrated youngsters from down south who've never played a professional game... 

What inevitably happens next is we end up getting to the last few days of the window and panic signing a whole load of utter cack in the wrong positions.

Why not just come to an agreement to sell Hedges now, rather than faffing about until the day the window closes just for the sake of an extra £50k or something. We've probably wasted that much on Jack Gurr's wages over the past year. Just let him go, take the £150K or whatever Blackburn are offering NOW, and use it to sign someone else - McGrath for example. Holding out for an extra few quid for a guy who wants to leave anyway is daft, especially if it's going to prevent us bringing in our first choice replacement. Same with Ferguson - I think we should let him go in this window, he's been wanting away for at least a year now and his value is probably as high as it's going to be - take £3m if someone's offering it NOW, and get the ball rolling on spending some of the money on other players who can come in and strengthen the team. 

Bang on the money

[AyrshireSheep 161]

5 minutes ago, Don_Corleone said:

We've seen this movie before... giving it all the chat about doing business early, looking to strengthen... then half way through the window nothing's happened and we start hearing need to move people out before anything happens whilst at the same time saying we don't need to sell anyone... linked with endless guff journeymen from the lower leagues in England, and overrated youngsters from down south who've never played a professional game... 

What inevitably happens next is we end up getting to the last few days of the window and panic signing a whole load of utter cack in the wrong positions.

Why not just come to an agreement to sell Hedges now, rather than faffing about until the day the window closes just for the sake of an extra £50k or something. We've probably wasted that much on Jack Gurr's wages over the past year. Just let him go, take the £150K or whatever Blackburn are offering NOW, and use it to sign someone else - McGrath for example. Holding out for an extra few quid for a guy who wants to leave anyway is daft, especially if it's going to prevent us bringing in our first choice replacement. Same with Ferguson - I think we should let him go in this window, he's been wanting away for at least a year now and his value is probably as high as it's going to be - take £3m if someone's offering it NOW, and get the ball rolling on spending some of the money on other players who can come in and strengthen the team. 

This is 100% spot on. Only 1 of the names we've been linked with is a player i actually want to see at the club. McGrath. Broom? No. 3 goals in Englands league 1 shouldn't be deemed good enough for us. Zander Clark is a big wage on a player in a position we don't desperately need to strengthen. Then linked with another fucking keeper. For all the "we are looking at new leagues to get value for money we keep hearing from the club we're yet to see any evidence we're doing anything differently. Let's be fair we only got Polvara because of Bobby Clark. Had he not got on the phone we'd probably have missed out on him too. 

[Ernie McCracken 763]

1 hour ago, YorkDon said:

I see some are starting to pish the bed already.

 

Given that the bed wetters have been proved right for at least the last 3 or 4 transfer windows, it's not much of an insult anymore. 

Edited January 14 by Ernie McCracken

[Ten Caat 931]

13 minutes ago, AyrshireSheep said:

This is 100% spot on. Only 1 of the names we've been linked with is a player i actually want to see at the club. McGrath. Broom? No. 3 goals in Englands league 1 shouldn't be deemed good enough for us. Zander Clark is a big wage on a player in a position we don't desperately need to strengthen. Then linked with another fucking keeper. For all the "we are looking at new leagues to get value for money we keep hearing from the club we're yet to see any evidence we're doing anything differently. Let's be fair we only got Polvara because of Bobby Clark. Had he not got on the phone we'd probably have missed out on him too. 

How do you know?

It's not like St Johnstone pay massive wages. I'll bet he will be a lot cheaper than Lewis is currently on.

 

[AyrshireSheep 161]

6 minutes ago, Ten Caat said:

How do you know?

It's not like St Johnstone pay massive wages. I'll bet he will be a lot cheaper than Lewis is currently on.

 

If Rangers are interested (as they are rumoured to be) then they'll drive his demands up. St Johnstone might not be the biggest payers but he'll be towards the top of their wage list.