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I’m looking forward to seeing how “we’ll come out the window stronger than we went in” as Glass promised (he’s full of it).

Rubbish like Plymouth on loan subs won’t cut it.

 

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2 hours ago, Ten Caat said:

Earning twice what they were at their previous club. With the theoretical chance that they might win a cup medal at some point of the duration of their contract. But more than likely not.

Sadly teams such as Burton Albion and Lincoln City  in EFL 1 can easily match that. The likes of Sunderland, Ipswich, Portsmouth etc can all comfortably beat it (love Michael Jackson). They can dangle the carrot of possible promotion into the English championship and a reasonable shot at winning a medal in the Papa John's Trophy. Hoo mama

 

Very much doubt we'd double most players wages and I also would suggest we have as much chance as St Mirren has of winning anything this season and subsequent seasons based on the shambles that AFC are right now. 

Apart from the Govan side I cannot think of any other club that has had the audacity to name the training complex after their chairman. Considering our history its extremely embarrassing that was what the complex was ultimately named. 

Cormack playing his own real life game of FIFA.

I renewed this season against better judgement but won't be back next year unless there are wholesale changes.

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55 minutes ago, Dandiesmin68 said:

Jury's out for me till window closes,I just wish the club would show some baws & spend some money, fans have had enough of shelling out year after year to pay for a season ticket for the 3rd place trophy.

 

Not good enough. We want & should be challenging on all fronts.

No guts, no glory. 

 

 

You’re dreaming if you think we will be challenging for the league when we’re signing the shite Glass does.

We’re miles away.
On the pitch & even more so, off the pitch. 

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12 minutes ago, Broken_Glass said:

Very much doubt we'd double most players wages and I also would suggest we have as much chance as St Mirren has of winning anything this season and subsequent seasons based on the shambles that AFC are right now. 

Apart from the Govan side I cannot think of any other club that has had the audacity to name the training complex after their chairman. Considering our history its extremely embarrassing that was what the complex was ultimately named. 

Cormack playing his own real life game of FIFA.

I renewed this season against better judgement but won't be back next year unless there are wholesale changes.

Bit of a waste now you'll be busy most Saturdays Darek

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14 minutes ago, Broken_Glass said:

Very much doubt we'd double most players wages and I also would suggest we have as much chance as St Mirren has of winning anything this season and subsequent seasons based on the shambles that AFC are right now. 

Apart from the Govan side I cannot think of any other club that has had the audacity to name the training complex after their chairman. Considering our history its extremely embarrassing that was what the complex was ultimately named. 

Cormack playing his own real life game of FIFA.

I renewed this season against better judgement but won't be back next year unless there are wholesale changes.

Who do you think should have been given the manager job instead of Glass?

Were there any other candidates at the time?

Alex Neil etc

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14 minutes ago, Broken_Glass said:

Very much doubt we'd double most players wages and I also would suggest we have as much chance as St Mirren has of winning anything this season and subsequent seasons based on the shambles that AFC are right now. 

Apart from the Govan side I cannot think of any other club that has had the audacity to name the training complex after their chairman. Considering our history its extremely embarrassing that was what the complex was ultimately named. 

Cormack playing his own real life game of FIFA.

I renewed this season against better judgement but won't be back next year unless there are wholesale changes.

Players at St Mirren (although recently they have started giving out relatively massive contracts in certain cases), St Johnstone, Motherwell and the likes tend to be earning in the £1200-£2000/week range. I'd surmise McGrath currently fits into this profile, given where they signed him from. So doubling that wage wouldn't be anything out of the ordinary for us. 

I totally concur that this season our chances of winning something are pretty much the same. They really should be a bit better given the disparity in relative budgets. But with the advantage the arse cheeks hold over us in budget terms, it's still a long shot that any team outwith them will. St J have though and not just once so there's hope for us all.

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What a reek of pishy pants in here....calm the fuck down chaps.

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Just now, Ten Caat said:

Players at St Mirren (although recently they have started giving out relatively massive contracts in certain cases), St Johnstone, Motherwell and the likes tend to be earning in the £1200-£2000/week range. I'd surmise McGrath currently fits into this profile, given where they signed him from. So doubling that wage wouldn't be anything out of the ordinary for us. 

I totally concur that this season our chances of winning something are pretty much the same. They really should be a bit better given the disparity in relative budgets. But with the advantage the arse cheeks hold over us in budget terms, it's still a long shot that any team outwith them will. St J have though and not just once so there's hope for us all.

Another thread you're stating that St Mirren have offered to make him their highest paid player - in the range of over £4k. Make up your mind. 

We're not paying McGrath £8-9k that is a fact.

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8 minutes ago, Bournemouth Gee said:

Who do you think should have been given the manager job instead of Glass?

Were there any other candidates at the time?

Alex Neil etc

Neil was fired by Preston on 21st March, we appointed Glass on the 23rd. If you believe Cormack, others were interviewed (possibly 3 others) but Glass was the outstanding candidate.

Given the timescales, it's reasonable to assume Neil was still in a job when this all took place

In any case he stated about a month later that he wanted to continue his career in England and wasn't interested in returning to Scotland at present. And I believe he reiterated this to Hibs recently when they wanted him to replace Jack Ross.

Nevertheless....Glass was and remains the wrong man for us

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10 minutes ago, Broken_Glass said:

Another thread you're stating that St Mirren have offered to make him their highest paid player - in the range of over £4k. Make up your mind. 

We're not paying McGrath £8-9k that is a fact.

I said we would double those on £1200-£2000/week............read what I wrote not make up your own take on it. I said that McGraths CURRENT wage fits into this profile

Although we are certainly paying Scott Brown more than the figures you quote. And I believe we could and would pay the right player those kind of figures as well. But McGrath certainly isn't the right player

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4 hours ago, Don_Corleone said:

We havent got any of those selling points at this precise moment. We're very much just on a par with the likes of Hearts and Hibs now and not much ahead of the likes of Motherwell and Dunee Utd when it comes to appeal.

Genuine question here - if we take off the red tinted spectacles and put ourselves in the players' shoes, what are the selling points for joining Aberdeen Football Club right now? 

I suppose it depends on whether you have a memory span that's a bit longer than a goldfish. 

2 hours ago, Durrant Dived said:

The administrators accepted it not the club. 

What's the distinction - can the club nix it?

2 hours ago, AyrshireSheep said:

This. For all of McInnes' faults (and there were plenty) the majority of the times a player signed he played a major part in it.

Yes, I'll give McInnes that. He was fairly good at selling the club. I'm not sure why you think Glass isn't good at that, it sounds like a fair amount of speculation on your part.

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7 minutes ago, redcryptoknight said:

I suppose it depends on whether you have a memory span that's a bit longer than a goldfish. 

What's the distinction - can the club nix it?

Yes, I'll give McInnes that. He was fairly good at selling the club. I'm not sure why you think Glass isn't good at that, it sounds like a fair amount of speculation on your part.

The club can't.......Shinnie was under no obligation to go though

But it's immaterial.....he signed for them yesterday....

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37 minutes ago, WesthillWanderersFC said:

You’re dreaming if you think we will be challenging for the league when we’re signing the shite Glass does.

We’re miles away.
On the pitch & even more so, off the pitch. 

We have been signing some shite overrated players for  years.

It's all about what ambitions the club have & also the fans, I want to see my team challenging & why not.

Maybe I'm just one of the lucky ones who can remember the good old days 😁

 

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8 minutes ago, Ten Caat said:

The club can't.......Shinnie was under no obligation to go though

But it's immaterial.....he signed for them yesterday....

Ah, okay. Thanks for letting me know. 

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With two weeks to go Colgate and the out of depth school teacher best pull a few rabbits out the hat for us to have a stronger squad at the end of January 

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17 minutes ago, Dandiesmin68 said:

We have been signing some shite overrated players for  years.

It's all about what ambitions the club have & also the fans, I want to see my team challenging & why not.

Maybe I'm just one of the lucky ones who can remember the good old days 😁

 

I’m old enough for that too.
But we were spending at least as much on players back then as the bigot brothers.

I think I’m right in saying Peter Weir was a record signing in Scotland at the time? 

It all changed when the cripple & Souness arrived at the Bastard Garden.

We made a “statement” of the wrong kind by appointing a dud as coach/manager, who inherited a poor McInnes squad & made an arse of improving it despite being allowed to bring in 11 players.

I noticed too that Glass has changed his rhetoric around the January window. 
It’s gone from “we’ll come out of it stronger” to “if nothing happens we’ll attack the 2nd half of the season with a good squad”.

 

 

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10 minutes ago, WesthillWanderersFC said:

I’m old enough for that too.
But we were spending at least as much on players back then as the bigot brothers.

I think I’m right in saying Peter Weir was a record signing in Scotland at the time? 

It all changed when the cripple & Souness arrived at the Bastard Garden.

We made a “statement” of the wrong kind by appointing a dud as coach/manager, who inherited a poor McInnes squad & made an arse of improving it despite being allowed to bring in 11 players.

I noticed too that Glass has changed his rhetoric around the January window. 
It’s gone from “we’ll come out of it stronger” to “if nothing happens we’ll attack the 2nd half of the season with a good squad”.

 

 

According to reports Glass is basically saying Mcgrath bottled move to us as we are too big a club for him expectations etc etc....

He also says there are "irons in the fire" 

Possible some 2nd choices at Exeter or Bray Wanderers getting tapped up.

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9 minutes ago, WesthillWanderersFC said:

I’m old enough for that too.
But we were spending at least as much on players back then as the bigot brothers.

I think I’m right in saying Peter Weir was a record signing in Scotland at the time? 

It all changed when the cripple & Souness arrived at the Bastard Garden.

We made a “statement” of the wrong kind by appointing a dud as coach/manager, who inherited a poor McInnes squad & made an arse of improving it despite being allowed to bring in 11 players.

I noticed too that Glass has changed his rhetoric around the January window. 
It’s gone from “we’ll come out of it stronger” to “if nothing happens we’ll attack the 2nd half of the season with a good squad”.

 

 

Glass has no choice. Cormack isn’t backing him during this transfer window so he is stuck with what he has unless he sells or moves others on. I am starting to feel a bit sympathy with Stephen. He was given the impression he would be strongly backed but the reality is he was sold another line by Davie Cormack. Good luck to Glass and his team for the second half of the season, he will certainly need it.
 

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15 minutes ago, WesthillWanderersFC said:

I’m old enough for that too.
But we were spending at least as much on players back then as the bigot brothers.

I think I’m right in saying Peter Weir was a record signing in Scotland at the time? 

It all changed when the cripple & Souness arrived at the Bastard Garden.

We made a “statement” of the wrong kind by appointing a dud as coach/manager, who inherited a poor McInnes squad & made an arse of improving it despite being allowed to bring in 11 players.

I noticed too that Glass has changed his rhetoric around the January window. 
It’s gone from “we’ll come out of it stronger” to “if nothing happens we’ll attack the 2nd half of the season with a good squad”.

 

 

We were for a very short amount of time the undisputed highest wage paying club in Scotland. And yes Weir was the record Scottish fee at that point....£330k

But the oldco revolution wasn't started under Sir Nolegs. Lawrence Marlborough owned them in '86 and appointed David Holmes to oversee things. They started splashing out on Woods, Butcher et al but were aided in this because post-Heysel English clubs were under a European ban

Murray didn't buy them until very late 1988. Having been turned down by Ayr United to buy them a few months earlier......despite apparently promising them amongst other things that he'd build them a brand new stadium

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53 minutes ago, redcryptoknight said:

I suppose it depends on whether you have a memory span that's a bit longer than a goldfish. 

I don't think players care much about what we were doing 3 or 4 seasons ago or 30 years ago - they'll base their decision on what we're offering them right now, which as far as I can tell is very little. 

 

 

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4 hours ago, aberdeen1970 said:

Aye, all of the above.

Cormack doesn't help either imo.

Yes, I agree with you both. We aren’t a big appeal anymore. I honestly thought Cormack would have brought more to the table and made us a far more interesting club. He comes across as if he is a bit bored now.

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3 minutes ago, Oakbank50 said:

Oakbank50

Will come good in a few days

I look forward to reading that then.

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4 minutes ago, Oakbank50 said:

Oakbank50

Will come good in a few days

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Just now, RED_JOHN said:

Yes, I agree with you both. We aren’t a big appeal anymore. I honestly thought Cormack would have brought more to the table and made us a far more interesting club. He comes across as if he is a bit bored now.

I think the reality of it all has kicked in for Cormack now and he's realising it's not as easy as just turning up with his shiny teeth and folders full of Americanised ideas to transform us into a major force again and give the fans the time of their life when they come to Pittodrie. We're definitely seeing and hearing a lot less of him now.

Don't get me wrong, I think some of his ideas have been quite good and refreshing BUT at the bottom line is what happens on the pitch, and it's been honking. That's down to the manager he brought in, and the garbage players and tactics he's employed.

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13 minutes ago, Dandiesmin68 said:

According to reports Glass is basically saying Mcgrath bottled move to us as we are too big a club for him expectations etc etc....

He also says there are "irons in the fire" 

Possible some 2nd choices at Exeter or Bray Wanderers getting tapped up.

The whole McGrath thing and criticism of either the club or the player confuses me.

We make an offer for as much as we can afford. 
The player is attracting the interest of a club (Birmingham) who can easily double what we offer).

The player says he wants to see if that comes to fruition. Fair enough, why wouldn’t he?

And we have decided to move on.

No big deal 

I’m not sure there’s any need for Glass to suggest McGrath hasn’t got the cahoneys to play at Aberdeen. He’s a regular for ROI & has played against Portugal among others.

Glass is grand standing where there’s no need.

Billy bigbaws will thrill us all with a Plymouth substitute. 

 

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7 minutes ago, Don_Corleone said:

I think the reality of it all has kicked in for Cormack now and he's realising it's not as easy as just turning up with his shiny teeth and folders full of Americanised ideas to transform us into a major force again and give the fans the time of their life when they come to Pittodrie. We're definitely seeing and hearing a lot less of him now.

Don't get me wrong, I think some of his ideas have been quite good and refreshing BUT at the bottom line is what happens on the pitch, and it's been honking. That's down to the manager he brought in, and the garbage players and tactics he's employed.

The two major factors holding us back.

1) The manager/coach

2) Shite recruitment

It won’t get better until Glass is gone. He’s out his depth as a coach. 
Until Cormack accepts this it’ll be scrabbling about trying to make the top 6 & wasting the 3rd biggest budget in the league. 

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Isn’t our wages to turnover really high????
 

We need to offload a fair bit of dead wood in our bloated squad before getting players in.

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27 minutes ago, StevieT1986 said:

Isn’t our wages to turnover really high????
 

We need to offload a fair bit of dead wood in our bloated squad before getting players in.

Yes & yes

The 2nd bit isn’t easy.

Who would want the likes of Devlin (apart from Glass FFS), McGinn, JET, Kennedy, McLennan. The last three are contracted until June 2023 FFS. 
Bit of a shambles.

He inherited an unbalanced squad & arguably made it even more so

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