Ukraine

[davieb]

1 hour ago, RedArmyFakshun said:

Putin invaded Crimea while USA under Obama

Putin invaded nowt while USA under Donald

Putin invaded Ukraine while USA under Biden

Seems to me that Putin and Donald got along just fine

Putin took over the Whitehouse when Trump was in office

[Studebaker-90]

17 minutes ago, Zeus said:

Wee scuffle

Be arite.

Putin will come good 

[Ke1t]

21 minutes ago, Ramandu said:

Trump is absolutely an idiot, and I wouldn't want him in charge of a corner shop, but I listened to that interview and he was being sarcastic when he said Peace Force. 

Pretty much every leader in the West: UK, Germany, USA, has enabled this by the response to 2014. 

You can't really blame the West for the independent actions of Vladimir Putin. 

They might want to take heed of the chain of events perpetrated by another dictator in the 1930s, though, and how current events are imitating them. 

6 F-35s and 10,000 redeployed soldiers isn't much of a counterforce. 

[Studebaker-90]

He’s over stretched himself, the Russian public dinna want it. I think he’s fucked. This will end with his assassination. 

[Simply Red]

6 minutes ago, Studebaker-90 said:

He’s over stretched himself, the Russian public dinna want it. I think he’s fucked. This will end with his assassination. 

Fair shout.

The russian people will see theyve nothing to gain from this shit other than it decimating their economy and killing a lot of their own people.

Hopefully it means Scotland get a by into the next round in the World Cup qualifier. 

[Zeus]

 

[Ramandu]

17 minutes ago, Ke1t said:

You can't really blame the West for the independent actions of Vladimir Putin. 

They might want to take heed of the chain of events perpetrated by another dictator in the 1930s, though, and how current events are imitating them. 

6 F-35s and 10,000 redeployed soldiers isn't much of a counterforce. 

Totally agree that Putin's responsible.

But Putin knows Lenin's maxim about bayonets: Push, and if you find mush keep pushing, if you find steel withdraw. He's found a lot of mush in the past.

[Redforever86]

 

Our government has other priorities rather than protecting innocent lives. 
 

Fucking wankers. 

[RedArmyFakshun]

28 minutes ago, Captain Caveman said:

Last years covid experts are now skilled in Eastern European politics and war tactics

In these uncertain times, its important to diversify your skillset

[Redforever86]

Biden is a fucking cunt standing there smiling and won’t even take Russia out of SWIFT or sanction Putin directly. 
 

Absolute fannies.

[minijc]

Just now, Poodler said:

Are innocent lives being taken though? Despite all the bluster from the bbc, has any civilian area been attacked? 
 

 

Certainly a lot of videos on twitter, one where a house gets hit.

[Poodler]

Are innocent lives being taken though? Despite all the bluster from the bbc, has any civilian area been attacked? 
 

In reply to RF

[Ke1t]

5 minutes ago, Poodler said:

Are innocent lives being taken though? Despite all the bluster from the bbc, has any civilian area been attacked? 
 

 

Just saw footage of a Russian jet launch an unguided rocket into a neighbourhood... guy was filming out his window, and the rocket appeared to hit within a few yards. 

From what I'm seeing, despite months of warnings, Ukraine seems bizarrely underprepared. 

 

[Zeus]

No need for alarm.

All will come good 

[RedArmyFakshun]

4 minutes ago, Ke1t said:

From what I'm seeing, despite months of warnings, Ukraine seems bizarrely underprepared. 

I think it was last year, the president boy said, if they invade we will open the armories for the citizens to defend themselves

Thats about it

[Ke1t]

2 minutes ago, RedArmyFakshun said:

I think it was last year, the president boy said, if they invade we will open the armories for the citizens to defend themselves

Thats about it

Sounds like Russian paratroops took the airport outside Kiev. Why wasn't a strategic location like that heavily guarded? 

Most of the combat-ready Ukrainian units are situated in the East, risking being cut off and surrounded. 

Appears that a lot of Ukrainian armor and aircraft were caught parked on their bases, rather than dispersed and camo'ed. 

These Ukrainian cunts don't sound like they're even trying to defend themselves. 

[fine-n-dandy]

2 minutes ago, Ke1t said:

Sounds like Russian paratroops took the airport outside Kiev. Why wasn't a strategic location like that heavily guarded? 

Most of the combat-ready Ukrainian units are situated in the East, risking being cut off and surrounded. 

Appears that a lot of Ukrainian armor and aircraft were caught parked on their bases, rather than dispersed and camo'ed. 

These Ukrainian cunts don't sound like they're even trying to defend themselves. 

Sounds like they’ve been taking defensive advice from Stephen Glass ?

[Simply Red]

10 minutes ago, Bad_Mobby said:

 forfeit 

Love Ryan Fraser

[Simply Red]

3 minutes ago, Sooper-hanz said:

 ? Glassnost

Mark Perrystroika

[Ramandu]

9 minutes ago, Ke1t said:

Sounds like Russian paratroops took the airport outside Kiev. Why wasn't a strategic location like that heavily guarded? 

Most of the combat-ready Ukrainian units are situated in the East, risking being cut off and surrounded. 

Appears that a lot of Ukrainian armor and aircraft were caught parked on their bases, rather than dispersed and camo'ed. 

These Ukrainian cunts don't sound like they're even trying to defend themselves. 

Seems the Ukrainians may have just taken the airport back.

It's weird watching a way play out in real time on Twitter.

[BitWait]

Half of them welcome the Russian invasion but we only hear from the pro European lot. Ukraine was a mess of corruption from its beginning. Worked with a guy from Crimea who said his Mothers pension doubled after the Russians took over in 2014.

[Poodler]

37 minutes ago, Ke1t said:

Just saw footage of a Russian jet launch an unguided rocket into a neighbourhood... guy was filming out his window, and the rocket appeared to hit within a few yards. 

From what I'm seeing, despite months of warnings, Ukraine seems bizarrely underprepared. 

 

You’re up to speed with these things, keltoid, can the media really call it a war? Has war been declared? Does it need to be to be a war? 
 

Why do the media keep saying there’s fierce fighting reportedly happening but no footage? Surely someone has a phone 
 

 

[RedArmyFakshun]

3 minutes ago, Poodler said:

Has war been declared?

This morning Putin classed it as a 'special operation', with no intent to occupy

The man has a prawcess

[Poodler]

We speak every day here about not trusting the MSM, why are we accepting what they’re saying now as gospel? 
 

im not fishing or anything, I just can’t trust unverified reports from establishment media which has a clear agenda 

Relistically, Russia aren’t going to fire rockets across Europe to Britain, why should we be any more invested in this than say an African dispute? The media need a new bogeyman now that the covid monster has been exhausted 

[Simply Red]

1 minute ago, Bad_Mobby said:

Charlie Sputnikolas

Mark Kerrnobyl

[Ke1t]

5 minutes ago, Poodler said:

You’re up to speed with these things, keltoid, can the media really call it a war? Has war been declared? Does it need to be to be a war? 
 

Why do the media keep saying there’s fierce fighting reportedly happening but no footage? Surely someone has a phone 
 

 

The initial stages of a modern war don't involve masses of soldiers shooting at each other, so the notion of capturing footage of lines of infantry in combat is largely outdated.  The preamble to the ground attack is gaining the air above the battlefield, which is why you're primarily seeing missiles, jets, and helos taking down air defence infrastructure. 

That seems to be going pretty quickly, so land forces will kick on shortly if they haven't already. 

It's a war inasmuch as two countries are trying to kill each other, but it's a fight in the same way it would be a 'fight' if you stuck Judi Dench in a ring with Mike Tyson. 

The good thing is that Ukraine seems a bit shit at war, so it'll all be over pretty quickly. The longer it drags on the greater the chance of a NATO thing getting blown up, deliberately or accidentally, and then shit will get real. 

My current thoughts are it's going to be a quick victory for the Russians, a cheeky wee Pro-Moscow regime change, and a low level insurgency, seems like the likely outcome here. 

[Zeus]

Dnipro Daz

[RedArmyFakshun]

14 minutes ago, Poodler said:

why should we be any more invested in this than say an African dispute?

This is a story of three big land pipelines

[Jigsaw666]

Economic sanctions, what a load of shite. Putin wants to reconstruct the USSR jigsaw and all the West does is babble on about blocking bank accounts. Biden giving it restrictions on imports and exports. Load of shite. 

[Simply Red]

17 minutes ago, Bad_Mobby said:

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