Zander Clark

[Ten Caat]

9 minutes ago, Broken_Glass said:

Positive news is you managed to spell Derek correctly today - big step for you. Well done.

Huh?

[Ten Caat]

9 minutes ago, WesthillWanderersFC said:

Not really. He can sell it ?

 

I think he will find selling his house easier than we will find selling him

[WesthillWanderersFC]

12 minutes ago, cruickc2 said:

I think its more likely Woods is going.

Clark wouldn't be gauranteed first choice but will be told the Keeper in form gets picked,  which really means Lewis will become back-up to Clark.

I cannot see us having two keepers like that on the books at the one time.

If so, it’s a waste of a good wage for an outfield player 

[Poodler]

Is he a hun? 
 

can go get his throat cut if he is 

if he’s green and white, welcome brother 

[Matt Armstrong's Dog]

57 minutes ago, redone said:

Craig Gordon has been the best keeper in Scotland this season. Hearts would be on a similar points total to us if they hadn’t upgraded their keeper.

Craig Gordon has been very good this season, there's no doubting that and if it wasn't for him they'd be arguably mid-table, but at this moment in time, Clark shades it for me.

[Scotty_Toronto]

2 hours ago, Ten Caat said:

I get what you are saying as Lewis is on such a hefty contract and that is what I think is the only thing that has stopped the  problem being addressed for about 2 years despite it being clear he was becoming a total liability.

But we won't progress with such a 'keeper as our first choice

Ideally we get him moved on but if we can't, or he chooses to stay put for whatever reason I'm afraid we just have to suck it up and curse McInnes for handing him such an onerous deal

Settle down.

[Ten Caat]

5 minutes ago, Scotty_Toronto said:

Settle down.

I stand by my opinion

And that's an opinion I respect

[Sonoftherock]

Clark is better than Lewis these days, so a positive step. However Clark will be commanding a big wage. Money better spent elsewhere IMO!

[aberdeen1970]

Clark is a slightly above average goalie in our league so that's what we'd be getting.   Fine for a number 2, questionable for a number 1 for a club with any ambition.  Nowhere near as good as Lewis at his previous peak but possibly better (or at least more confident) than the current version of Lewis.

Doesn't seem to fit the 'new' under 28 transfer policy though or does that not apply to goalies?

[thurso]

25 minutes ago, Matt Armstrong's Dog said:

Craig Gordon has been very good this season, there's no doubting that and if it wasn't for him they'd be arguably mid-table, but at this moment in time, Clark shades it for me.

On his day Clark is an excellent keeper but Craig Gordon is better from what Iv seen id say Liam Kelly at Motherwell is as good as Clark maybe slightly better 

[Tord31]

As I said on another thread im happy to go for this if we can get a move for Lewis including a transfer fee. If we can't then i'd let zander clark go by and wait till further down the line. There is no way the situation merits paying off Lewis or having such an expensive back up

[PondHopper]

51 minutes ago, thurso said:

On his day Clark is an excellent keeper but Craig Gordon is better from what Iv seen id say Liam Kelly at Motherwell is as good as Clark maybe slightly better 

Kelly is better imo

[Parklife]

2 hours ago, redone said:

Craig Gordon has been the best keeper in Scotland this season. Hearts would be on a similar points total to us if they hadn’t upgraded their keeper.

Never mind 'keeper, he's been the best player in Scotland this season. 

[slippers]

Is Clark a ball playing GK? Assuming he is or its a ridiculous signing!

[WesthillWanderersFC]

3 minutes ago, slippers said:

Is Clark a ball playing GK? Assuming he is or its a ridiculous signing!

I’m sure the management & recruitment team will have analysed the data ?

My gut tells me he’s not, particularly as St Johnstone are quite direct. 

 

[Matt Armstrong's Dog]

1 hour ago, thurso said:

On his day Clark is an excellent keeper but Craig Gordon is better from what Iv seen id say Liam Kelly at Motherwell is as good as Clark maybe slightly better 

Each of them are excellent 'keepers, however if I had a choice, I would be most comfortable and confident with Clark.

A brilliant all-round No. 1.

[Ten Caat]

1 hour ago, aberdeen1970 said:

Clark is a slightly above average goalie in our league so that's what we'd be getting.   Fine for a number 2, questionable for a number 1 for a club with any ambition.  Nowhere near as good as Lewis at his previous peak but possibly better (or at least more confident) than the current version of Lewis.

Doesn't seem to fit the 'new' under 28 transfer policy though or does that not apply to goalies?

You must know it's the one position where age isn't quite the limiting factor that it is for outfield players

Gordon just turned 39, McGregor turning 40 in a fortnight or so.

Clark turns 30 in the summer. No reason (other than an unlucky serious injury) that we shouldn't get 3 to 4 years good service out of him as a minimum and as long as he looks after himself maybe a good few years beyond.

[thurso]

16 minutes ago, Matt Armstrong's Dog said:

Each of them are excellent 'keepers, however if I had a choice, I would be most comfortable and confident with Clark.

A brilliant all-round No. 1.

As long as who ever is playing keeps the ball out of the net I don’t really care how the rest of his game is

So if we sign Clark, keep Lewis or play young Ritchie the number one thing anyone should look at in a keeper is can he stop shots and as far as I’m aware they can all do that pretty good 

[WesthillWanderersFC]

4 minutes ago, thurso said:

As long as who ever is playing keeps the ball out of the net I don’t really care how the rest of his game is

So if we sign Clark, keep Lewis or play young Ritchie the number one thing anyone should look at in a keeper is can he stop shots and as far as I’m aware they can all do that pretty good 

Pretty much agree.

Craig Gordon is like Bambi on ice with the ball at his feet. Still a great keeper. 

Besides, no point in having a ball playing keeper if he’s passing it out to the likes of Bates, Considine or Gallagher FFS 

[Ten Caat]

2 minutes ago, thurso said:

As long as who ever is playing keeps the ball out of the net I don’t really care how the rest of his game is

So if we sign Clark, keep Lewis or play young Ritchie the number one thing anyone should look at in a keeper is can he stop shots and as far as I’m aware they can all do that pretty good 

It's now the basic requirement of a goalkeeper

Football has evolved over the past 15 years......goalkeepers are now being used as auxiliary sweepers and with the rule changes that have occurred they now have to be proficient with the ball at their feet

Sadly for Joe, in the past 2 or 3 years he has been losing embarrassing goals on a fairly regular basis. Is it any coincidence this seemed to occur in tandem with getting the captaincy??

After getting dropped earlier this season (absolutely deservedly) he seems to have recovered his form and concentration

But I'm afraid he just doesn't have it in him to improve his skills with the ball at his feet. I said a couple of weeks ago and I was absolutely serious that there are countless 10 year old loons who are better with a ball at their feet than Lewis can ever aspire to be

[slippers]

55 minutes ago, WesthillWanderersFC said:

I’m sure the management & recruitment team will have analysed the data ?

My gut tells me he’s not, particularly as St Johnstone are quite direct. 

 

That was mine too but I've not seen enough to comment. 

[slippers]

37 minutes ago, thurso said:

As long as who ever is playing keeps the ball out of the net I don’t really care how the rest of his game is

So if we sign Clark, keep Lewis or play young Ritchie the number one thing anyone should look at in a keeper is can he stop shots and as far as I’m aware they can all do that pretty good 

Thats absolutely fine but the club need to shut up about a expansive style of football if signing players that cant pass the ball. Its just plain embarrassing. 

[Matt Armstrong's Dog]

53 minutes ago, thurso said:

As long as who ever is playing keeps the ball out of the net I don’t really care how the rest of his game is

So if we sign Clark, keep Lewis or play young Ritchie the number one thing anyone should look at in a keeper is can he stop shots and as far as I’m aware they can all do that pretty good 

Very true min. However, as you know, there is far more to being a 'keeper than being just a shotstopper though.

[PondHopper]

1 hour ago, Ten Caat said:

You must know it's the one position where age isn't quite the limiting factor that it is for outfield players

Gordon just turned 39, McGregor turning 40 in a fortnight or so.

Clark turns 30 in the summer. No reason (other than an unlucky serious injury) that we shouldn't get 3 to 4 years good service out of him as a minimum and as long as he looks after himself maybe a good few years beyond.

Oscar Perez made it 46. Pretty decent in his 40s. Aberdeen should go get Chuy Corona when his contract winds down and put him out there til he's 50.

Some keepers do age like a fine wine. 

[thurso]

1 hour ago, Ten Caat said:

It's now the basic requirement of a goalkeeper

Football has evolved over the past 15 years......goalkeepers are now being used as auxiliary sweepers and with the rule changes that have occurred they now have to be proficient with the ball at their feet

Sadly for Joe, in the past 2 or 3 years he has been losing embarrassing goals on a fairly regular basis. Is it any coincidence this seemed to occur in tandem with getting the captaincy??

After getting dropped earlier this season (absolutely deservedly) he seems to have recovered his form and concentration

But I'm afraid he just doesn't have it in him to improve his skills with the ball at his feet. I said a couple of weeks ago and I was absolutely serious that there are countless 10 year old loons who are better with a ball at their feet than Lewis can ever aspire to be

 

25 minutes ago, Matt Armstrong's Dog said:

Very true min. However, as you know, there is far more to being a 'keeper than being just a shotstopper though.

That would be right if we were Man City or Liverpool but look at our league the teams above us in the league they have hardly got keepers that are great with the ball at their feet, first and foremost they are shot stoppers. I could probably go as far and say there isn’t a keeper in the league id class as a “sweeper keeper”. 

[shooftahmooftah]

Hope he ditches the rip van winkle beard. 

[Dons79]

Jose chilavert Paraguayan keeper and Jorge campos Mexican keeper were old when retired, chilavert was outstanding as a keeper up until his last game 

[thurso]

47 minutes ago, slippers said:

Thats absolutely fine but the club need to shut up about a expansive style of football if signing players that cant pass the ball. Its just plain embarrassing. 

All you need from a keeper is to catch the ball and throw it quickly to one of our players ready to attack for expansive football.
Joes biggest fault I’d say is he holds onto it to long by that time our players are closed down so it’s either a wee pass to a centre half or a big boot out the park or to one of their defenders. 

[shooftahmooftah]

4 hours ago, ericblack4boss said:

I'm in the camp of Clark better than Lewis currently

Lewis is missing his bearded buddy Mcinnes and could be off to kilmarnock to cuddle him. 

[Matt Armstrong's Dog]

2 minutes ago, thurso said:

 

That would be right if we were Man City or Liverpool but look at our league the teams above us in the league they have hardly got keepers that are great with the ball at their feet, first and foremost they are shot stoppers. I could probably go as far and say there isn’t a keeper in the league id class as a “sweeper keeper”. 

Even the so-called greatest league in the planet's 'keepers get caught out trying to be like Franco Baresi playing out from the back.