Broken_Glass Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 13 minutes ago, thurso said: We had strikers at the club they just didn’t step up and score goals when Ramirez wasn’t. Did we really? Link to comment
Broken_Glass Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 35 minutes ago, PondHopper said: More squad rotation players that ensure Aberdeen FC hangs in the middle of the pack. 1. Leave space for the up and coming prospects. Do not fill it with average placeholders 2. Don't give up on the loan market. AFC has less of a budget than Rangers and Celtic, so a few budget friendly players with upside are needed 3. Find more at VB's level or above to develop and flip 4. Sign veterans above Gallagher, McGeouch levels. See reason 1. 1) We don't have any in the position to do that Harvie requires full time football like Barron had on loan, I suspect he needs at least 6/12 months on loan in the lower leagues. 2) Loans are very much hit or miss. Also unless there is an option to buy I'm not keen. 3) Agree 4) I believe we're trying to lower the average age. Link to comment
slippers Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 6 minutes ago, starryfish said: Goodwin said on Sunday he wanted another three or four 'Vinny type' players for attacking areas. What he wants and what he gets though.... Yeah he did say that. The biggest fear is that we aren’t releasing the released list yet because we have retained a few players the fans don’t want too. Maybe Montgomery loan has been extended, maybe we have offered a new deal to ojo? Who knows. Perhaps the releases list will be annouched at same time as a new arrival to try and take the heat off the club. Can’t really understand why we wouldn’t just announce straight away otherwise? Link to comment
Studebaker-90 Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 2 hours ago, Durrant Dived said: Dross like Hendry who's scored 8 goals since he was recalled in January in a dogshit st johnstone side. If he had scored those 8 in red whilst we gave ramirez a breather we would have been in the top 6. You’ve changed your tune Link to comment
Sonoftherock Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 Looking at the way Barron kicked on during his loan spell, I think we need to prioritise similar loan moves for our most promising youngsters. So much more beneficial than being a bit-part first team player. 6 months at Kelty and Barron was cherry ripe. I always thought a lack of first team football cost Dean Campbell a fair chunk of his development. At that age young lads need to be playing football to improve - not sitting on a bench or in the stands. Link to comment
Durrant Dived Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 3 minutes ago, Studebaker-90 said: You’ve changed your tune Correct. 1 striker doesn't work and that is evident. Hendry has had a good season considering where he's been and can easily be back up option for cheap. 1 Link to comment
Don_Corleone Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 1 hour ago, Broken_Glass said: Whether people want to admit it or not Hendry would improve our squad based on the fact Ramirez downed tools and left us with absolutely zero strikers at the club. Hendry is quick, direct, strong, works hard and can score goals if given a chance. Personally I wouldn't be adverse to him coming back in as a squad player as I think he would score goals. We need more than two strikers, I don't think Christian Rameriz will be back, therefore we may need up to 4 strikers, adding Hendry with SPL experience wouldn't be horrendous. No point in getting the incontinence pads out yet as I suspect he won't be anywhere near Goodwin's radar. If Hendry is out of contract I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up at Kilmarnock with McInnes. McInnes loves going back for the old boys - he'll take at least one or two of our out of contract players you can be sure. Link to comment
WesthillWanderersFC Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 17 minutes ago, Don_Corleone said: If Hendry is out of contract I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up at Kilmarnock with McInnes. McInnes loves going back for the old boys - he'll take at least one or two of our out of contract players you can be sure. McGeouch to Killie might be a shout. Hendry too I’d think. Link to comment
PondHopper Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 48 minutes ago, Broken_Glass said: 1) We don't have any in the position to do that Harvie requires full time football like Barron had on loan, I suspect he needs at least 6/12 months on loan in the lower leagues. 2) Loans are very much hit or miss. Also unless there is an option to buy I'm not keen. 3) Agree 4) I believe we're trying to lower the average age. Like Samuels? I'm cool with loan to buy too. But I'm also cool if a loan comes in from beyond celtic and rangers who can help us to European football Link to comment
DelMonte Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 4 hours ago, Durrant Dived said: Aye much rather have absolutely no one as back up striker. That's worked out brilliant for us. I’d rather just sign a decent striker than have Ramirez or Hendry. Similar level of player, we can do better than both. Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 1 hour ago, WesthillWanderersFC said: McGeouch to Killie might be a shout. Hendry too I’d think. McLennan & Kennedy too ? Link to comment
Durrant Dived Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 8 minutes ago, DelMonte said: I’d rather just sign a decent striker than have Ramirez or Hendry. Similar level of player, we can do better than both. Firstly I was saying Hendry as back up so more a replacement for JET. Secondly if they are a "decent striker" why are they going to come to us. League one pays more than us. Link to comment
WesthillWanderersFC Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 10 minutes ago, fine-n-dandy said: McLennan & Kennedy too ? For whatever reason I think JG likes Kennedy. He’s admitted he’s tried to sign him in the past. I don’t think he’ll be leaving. McLennan probably will go. He’s actually regressed in the last few years. I’m not even sure Cove SEVCO is his level. Championship might be a league too high. Link to comment
Rico1903 Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 1 hour ago, WesthillWanderersFC said: McGeouch to Killie might be a shout. Hendry too I’d think. With his injury record I can’t see him playing on their pitch. Link to comment
thurso Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 2 hours ago, Broken_Glass said: Did we really? Yes Watkins and Ruth. Besuijen to Link to comment
GreenLisbon25 Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 Reinforcements are needed for various sectors of the team. I don't know the club's financial possibilities but Aberdeen should hire at least 4/5 players who would add quality to the squad. Link to comment
The Gee Man Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 6 minutes ago, GreenLisbon25 said: Reinforcements are needed for various sectors of the team. I don't know the club's financial possibilities but Aberdeen should hire at least 4/5 players who would add quality to the squad. Simples Link to comment
Guest Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 1 hour ago, fine-n-dandy said: McLennan & Kennedy too ? Bates as well ? Link to comment
Kiriakov33 Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 3 hours ago, slippers said: Yeah he did say that. The biggest fear is that we aren’t releasing the released list yet because we have retained a few players the fans don’t want too. Maybe Montgomery loan has been extended, maybe we have offered a new deal to ojo? Who knows. Perhaps the releases list will be annouched at same time as a new arrival to try and take the heat off the club. Can’t really understand why we wouldn’t just announce straight away otherwise? Wee bit of patience required. I’m sure it will come out this week. The club are probably looking to announce it in one go so maybe there’s still negotiating with players who are still in contract to release them. I have a feeling though that we won’t be releasing as many as some of us would like. Link to comment
Durrant Dived Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 16 minutes ago, Kiriakov33 said: Wee bit of patience required. I’m sure it will come out this week. The club are probably looking to announce it in one go so maybe there’s still negotiating with players who are still in contract to release them. I have a feeling though that we won’t be releasing as many as some of us would like. Imagine the uproar when they announce Ojo has penned a new deal. Link to comment
Studebaker-90 Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 I see the pant pishing has started already. Bunch of freaks. Link to comment
DD1903 Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 5 hours ago, Durrant Dived said: Aye well the question was would anyone touch the out of contract St Johnstone players..... But your reply implies that we would have no other options... hendry or no back up... Link to comment
Peachandblack Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 4 hours ago, Durrant Dived said: Correct. 1 striker doesn't work and that is evident. Hendry has had a good season considering where he's been and can easily be back up option for cheap. Agreed. Single biggest mistake of the January window was leaving the club with one striker. Insane. Link to comment
Durrant Dived Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 4 minutes ago, DD1903 said: But your reply implies that we would have no other options... hendry or no back up... It implies what St Johnstone player I would take as a back up.. Link to comment
Broken_Glass Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 1 hour ago, thurso said: Yes Watkins and Ruth. Besuijen to 2 of whom are not strikers and 1 who is apparently going to be released due to not being good enough. Therefore at a push we had one young striker clearly not good enough - so no other options. 1 Link to comment
DD1903 Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 13 minutes ago, Durrant Dived said: It implies what St Johnstone player I would take as a back up.. Nope Link to comment
Andy_123 Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 1 hour ago, thurso said: Yes Watkins and Ruth. Besuijen to Watkins and Besuijen are not centre forwards. Ruth couldn't even do a decent job for Falkirk he was never going to contribute here Link to comment
SupportmeansSUPPORT Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 7 hours ago, Parklife said: Signing guys like hendry is the last thing we should be doing imo. What's the point in signing a 3rd choice striker when that's exactly the role a young player like Harvie should be taking up. Would rather give our youngsters a chance than sign dross like Hendry. I disagree with regards to the having a young player sitting on the bench. I think the likes of Harvey and Hanratty will learn a lot more playing 90 minutes in a lower league against experienced professionals than they would coming on for the odd 5 or 10-15 mins at the end of games here. Or if injuries hit and they get thrown in for starts before they are really ready, then they get the fury of fans who are abusing them as not good enough within a few games. I've seen lots of people on here saying we should have our own youngsters on the bench instead of bringing in squad players or loans from other clubs. Obviously if a young player is outstanding and truly at the level in terms of quality of ability and physicality to go straight into the first team at a young age that's fine but if we don't think they are ready to start games in SPL i think we should loan them out until they are ready rather than keep them on bench for a few minutes. St Johnstone's successful back 3 of last season with Jason Kerr, McCart, Liam Gordon and also Ali McCann in midfield were examples of players who progressed and developed on loan at lower levels. Same with Josh Doig and Campbell at Hibs. This season we had success with Barron. I don't believe if we had kept Connor with us at the start of the season he would be at the level he is at now, the loan at Kelty playing regular games really brought him on. That's why i would like us to continue to loan out as many as possible again next season. We should see if we can get Ngwenya playing for maybe Cove in the Championship now they have lost their left back to Partick. He has improved at Kelty but not yet ready for spl and having him sit on our bench next season will only stall his progress. Same with Ryan Duncan, hopefully we manage to really strengthen in the forward area's this summer so we can let him go out on loan until Jan again when hopefully he could replicate what Connor did this season and slot into the team for 2nd half of season. He has a lot of ability, great attitude from what I hear. And he will get better with more game time and experience playing regular fitba for maybe Inverness, Arbroath or possibly even Cove again rather than sat on our bench. 1 Link to comment
NEM Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 2 hours ago, thurso said: Yes Watkins and Ruth. Besuijen to They won't take us forward, they won't take us through Link to comment
Durrant Dived Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 16 hours ago, Tord31 said: Every man and his dog at St Johnstone are out of contract. Surely one ends up here 16 hours ago, Durrant Dived said: Hendry as back up striker. 27 minutes ago, DD1903 said: Nope Don't talk pish. Link to comment
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