Squad speculation...

[strachanmcgheegoal]

I think circumstance has a lot to do with it.  We were a decent side arguably pushing for first with serious firepower in all positions.  Of course Robson was going to contribute.

Brown was tasked with taking a bunch of shysters and having to explain to them what to do against Raith fucking Rovers.

 

[aberdeen1970]

MLS transfer window closes early May. 

What's the odds on Ramirez being off by then if we've nothing left to play for? 

[King Street Loon]

1 minute ago, aberdeen1970 said:

MLS transfer window closes early May. 

What's the odds on Ramirez being off by then if we've nothing left to play for? 

Slim.

What makes you believe he would want away?

[aberdeen1970]

Just now, King Street Loon said:

 

What makes you believe he would want away?

Nothing concrete min, just throwing it out there that things might not feel the same for him now there is a new management set up at the club. 

 

[King Street Loon]

2 minutes ago, aberdeen1970 said:

Nothing concrete min, just throwing it out there that things might not feel the same for him now there is a new management set up at the club. 

 

That could be the same for all the players then.

Managers are changed all the time. Players know the score as far as that goes.

[minijc]

11 minutes ago, King Street Loon said:

That could be the same for all the players then.

Managers are changed all the time. Players know the score as far as that goes.

He came here because of Glass and Russell though, add in that he is now being forced to play a way that doesn't suit his game, I'll be very surprised if he's in our side next season, already had 2 English championship sides watching him.

[King Street Loon]

Be that as it may. He's under contract and should only leave if we receive a decent offer. If 2 championship clubs are/have looked at him then I reckon he would fancy that. He would see it as a step up.

[DelMonte]

 

1 hour ago, minijc said:

He came here because of Glass and Russell though, add in that he is now being forced to play a way that doesn't suit his game, I'll be very surprised if he's in our side next season, already had 2 English championship sides watching him.

???

[Yorston Vasey]

3 hours ago, King Street Loon said:

Slim.

What makes you believe he would want away?

He's done the UK touristy things like Buckingham Palace, the Dracula castle and Peppa Pig Land so time to fuck off back Stateside for some decent weather.

[Tord31]

Ramirez will be fancying England more than heading back to America. 

He spoke about 'following his dream' last summer, and I doubt that was to play for AFC until the end

[Alex Ferguson]

On 3/8/2022 at 9:50 AM, The Gee Man said:

At least this season has 100% proved one thing our scouting set up is an absolute mess. And along with Gunn out we need someone brought in to re shape our scouting network and get us fit for the future of football 

We need someone with experience of Football Manager 2022 and a taste for Gregg's.

[dj_bollocks]

So long as players are leaving for money then that's no bad thing... A Cosgrove style situation with Ramirez where someone comes in with a couple of million could be just the solution... Sell Ferguson & Ramsay and you could end up with a £7 or 8+ million quid kitty... I'd expect half of that to go into the club and half to go to Goodwin... If you can't coast into 3rd place with that sort of cash then are you really that good a manager ? More than happy to sell if the right minded up and coming players have been scouted and are recruited... Fuck off with the bang average past it journeymen...

[Dave Bus]

Aye someone’s gonna pay a couple million for a 31 year old striker who has less than Bruce Anderson this season and only has a year left on the contract.

[The Gee Man]

You don’t need big outlay money to get a decent spl squad! We pay good wages and should be scouting far better than we are. Too many crocks is the problem. We can get some spl campaigners and a mixture of youth players and scouted talent and challenge for 3rd. Throw in a European run and attempt to win cups is unfortunately success these days. The ugly sisters far out spend us and unless we get a sugar daddy. We must build a squad to compete 

[WesthillWanderersFC]

3 minutes ago, dj_bollocks said:

So long as players are leaving for money then that's no bad thing... A Cosgrove style situation with Ramirez where someone comes in with a couple of million could be just the solution... Sell Ferguson & Ramsay and you could end up with a £7 or 8+ million quid kitty... I'd expect half of that to go into the club and half to go to Goodwin... If you can't coast into 3rd place with that sort of cash then are you really that good a manager ? More than happy to sell if the right minded up and coming players have been scouted and are recruited... Fuck off with the bang average past it journeymen...

You’re forgetting Hearts are getting £5m from guaranteed European group football in 2022/23 are they not? 

Bit of a sickener that they’ve been bumming around the lower leagues for the last few years whilst we’ve qualified for 8 years consecutively, yet they’ll get straight in as I understand it. 

[The Gee Man]

4 minutes ago, Dave Bus said:

Aye someone’s gonna pay a couple million for a 31 year old striker who has less than Bruce Anderson this season and only has a year left on the contract.

I think a league 1 wanting championship in England would give us £1.5-2 million for Rameriz with a hope he gets them promotion 

[The Gee Man]

1 minute ago, WesthillWanderersFC said:

You’re forgetting Hearts are getting £5m from guaranteed European group football in 2022/23 are they not? 

Bit of a sickener that they’ve been bumming around the lower leagues for the last few years whilst we’ve qualified for 8 years consecutively, yet they’ll get straight in as I understand it. 

In Europe nothing is guaranteed, they change the rules to work for the big 8

[WesthillWanderersFC]

15 minutes ago, The Gee Man said:

In Europe nothing is guaranteed, they change the rules to work for the big 8

I thought our co-efficient meant they were getting straight into the group stages? 
Is that not right?

The co-efficient is boosted even more so if the Russians get booted out. 

[WesthillWanderersFC]

19 minutes ago, The Gee Man said:

I think a league 1 wanting championship in England would give us £1.5-2 million for Rameriz with a hope he gets them promotion 

For a 31 year old?

That seems optimistic 

I’d be grabbing that if offered 

[aberdeen1970]

How many 31 year old with 1 year left on their contracts have gone for £2m from the Scottish league? 

Outside the Huns and Celtic I'd imagine that total would be zero. 

[Dave Bus]

Even within the cheeks I’d imagine that total would be zero

[Ernie McCracken]

10 minutes ago, aberdeen1970 said:

How many 31 year old with 1 year left on their contracts have gone for £2m from the Scottish league? 

Outside the Huns and Celtic I'd imagine that total would be zero. 

That maybe so, but why would we voluntarily sell him for much less than that? 

[aberdeen1970]

9 minutes ago, Ernie McCracken said:

That maybe so, but why would we voluntarily sell him for much less than that? 

I didn't say we should Ernie. 

 

[Ten Caat]

I thought Ramirez joined us on a 3 years deal so has 2 years left?

Difficult to pin a value on him right enough. But I definitely agree if we were offered £1.5m we should snap it up. Suspect £1m is probably more realistic

[aberdeen1970]

17 minutes ago, Ten Caat said:

I thought Ramirez joined us on a 3 years deal so has 2 years left?

Difficult to pin a value on him right enough. But I definitely agree if we were offered £1.5m we should snap it up. Suspect £1m is probably more realistic

Signed a 2 year deal TC

https://www.afc.co.uk/player/christian-ramirez/

 

 

[Byrne Baby Byrne]

50 minutes ago, Ten Caat said:

I thought Ramirez joined us on a 3 years deal so has 2 years left?

Difficult to pin a value on him right enough. But I definitely agree if we were offered £1.5m we should snap it up. Suspect £1m is probably more realistic

How is £1 million realistic? We literally got him from free despite him being under contract at his last club. £400k absolute tops 

[aberdeen1970]

25 minutes ago, Byrne Baby Byrne said:

How is £1 million realistic? We literally got him from free despite him being under contract at his last club. £400k absolute tops 

Happens every time min. 

Only a few months ago some folk were expecting £5m for Ferguson and £8-10m for Ramsay.  Plus add ons in both cases. 

 

[dj_bollocks]

3 hours ago, Dave Bus said:

Aye someone’s gonna pay a couple million for a 31 year old striker who has less than Bruce Anderson this season and only has a year left on the contract.

In the English Championship...? Without blinking an eye... ?

[aberdeen1970]

Is John McGinn not the record transfer fee paid by an English championship club for a Scottish based player at £2.75m?

And he was 23 at the time. 

 

[sheepcrooky]

4 minutes ago, aberdeen1970 said:

Is John McGinn not the record transfer fee paid by an English championship club for a Scottish based player at £2.75m?

And he was 23 at the time. 

 

Thought we got slightly more than that for McKenna to Forest.