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38 minutes ago, patrick bateman said:

No 

Nothing sexist in acknowledging biology.

As I have stated previously I have no problem with trans people or them being treated as equal to all other people.

But this should not come at the expense of women and their rights.

I'm listening to what women say and giving primacy to their voices in these matters.

You're the one who, as I say made this about age not sex and dismissed women's opinion and concerns.

I don't think you realise what you are saying half the time.

Your starting position was Brian (who may well be transphobic) posted it ergo the story by it's nature must be dismissed as such.

 

It's not coming at the expense of women and their rights tho? 
 

It's not like they excluded women from competing in that competition, they had a right to compete. So did trans women. Everyone's rights are in check there

 

The issue is whether someone born a man and gone through puberty should compete with women. That's something I'm unsure of, and certainly against in a lot of sports. 
 

The issue is surely about fairness in that instance, as opposed to rights. 

But what's interesting is, the people obsessed with defining womanhood as purely genitals based, have contributed to the shitshow in America just now. 
 

If a woman's sole thing that makes her (for sure) a woman is her reproductive organs, then that just feeds into the narrative over there that they are to be silly little breeding machines. 
 

A woman is someone with a vagina. Nothing more, nothing less. 

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18 minutes ago, CCB III said:

It's not coming at the expense of women and their rights tho? 
 

It's not like they excluded women from competing in that competition, they had a right to compete. So did trans women. Everyone's rights are in check there

 

The issue is whether someone born a man and gone through puberty should compete with women. That's something I'm unsure of, and certainly against in a lot of sports. 
 

The issue is surely about fairness in that instance, as opposed to rights. 

But what's interesting is, the people obsessed with defining womanhood as purely genitals based, have contributed to the shitshow in America just now. 
 

If a woman's sole thing that makes her (for sure) a woman is her reproductive organs, then that just feeds into the narrative over there that they are to be silly little breeding machines. 
 

A woman is someone with a vagina. Nothing more, nothing less. 

Did you even bother your arse to read Ten Catts post last night?  Clearly not if you're continuing with this pish 

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8 minutes ago, NEM said:

Did you even bother your arse to read Ten Catts post last night?  Clearly not if you're continuing with this pish 

Hey, he's never wrong.  How dare you question his credibility.  He's an always right kinda prick and a prick he is make no mistake.

Awaits a condescendin' age, weight or follicle based retort. He canna' help himsel'.  Prick.

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41 minutes ago, NEM said:

Did you even bother your arse to read Ten Catts post last night?  Clearly not if you're continuing with this pish 

Did you even bother to read anything else I sent last night? 
 

I went over TCs post. He's a nurse, fair play to him. He's not a qualified biologist, neurologist or psychologist. 
 

The science (you love to cite) is changing on these things all the time. 
 

It's fascinating. Certainly would be churlish to not consider all scientific possibilities. 
 

 

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43 minutes ago, NEM said:

Did you even bother your arse to read Ten Catts post last night?  Clearly not if you're continuing with this pish 

Also, TCs post is unrelated to what I'm saying. 
 

Many people, purely define men and women by genital/ reproductive organ. TC gave us an interesting medical insight into what typically makes a man and what makes a woman. As with all nature, there are exceptions to the rule. 
 

You trying to insist that science= fact shows you have a limited understanding of what science is. 
 

 

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2 hours ago, BrianFaePerth said:

 No eh have lots of friends

Clearly a lie tbh. 

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1 hour ago, NEM said:

Did you even bother your arse to read Ten Catts post last night?  Clearly not if you're continuing with this pish 

Ten Caat opined, accurately, from a scientific point of view. 

But we don't always use science as a basis for cultural mores. 

If we did there would be no fucking religion. 

Lop off a cock and bolt on tits and a vajayjay and you have a serviceable chick. 

Don't even say you wouldn't.

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13 minutes ago, Ke1t said:

Ten Caat opined, accurately, from a scientific point of view. 

But we don't always use science as a basis for cultural mores. 

If we did there would be no fucking religion. 

Lop off a cock and bolt on tits and a vajayjay and you have a serviceable chick. 

Don't even say you wouldn't.

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Only anal.

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21 minutes ago, Ke1t said:

Ten Caat opined, accurately, from a scientific point of view. 

But we don't always use science as a basis for cultural mores. 

If we did there would be no fucking religion. 

Lop off a cock and bolt on tits and a vajayjay and you have a serviceable chick. 

Don't even say you wouldn't.

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Funny you should compare the belief in an all seeing sky wizard to the trans nonsense 

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9 minutes ago, Beachend Bootboy said:

Only anal.

If you found out half way through her sucking your cock, or grinding your little fireman with her newly minted ladybox,  that she used to be a dude I'm going to say 99.99% of guys are going to let her finish. 

I'd smash her knowing ahead of time she was a dude.

 

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7 minutes ago, NEM said:

Funny you should compare the belief in an all seeing sky wizard to the trans nonsense 

I didn't compare them, I used them as disparate examples.

For example.... kitchen equipment/cultural mores come in all different designs. 

Here's a kettle. 

Here's a fridge. 

I am not comparing them, I'm using them as examples of things you might find in a kitchen. 

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13 minutes ago, Ke1t said:

I didn't compare them, I used them as disparate examples.

For example.... kitchen equipment/cultural mores come in all different designs. 

Here's a kettle. 

Here's a fridge. 

I am not comparing them, I'm using them as examples of things you might find in a kitchen. 

Cultural norms are irrelevant. Basic biology dictates you can’t change from a male to a female or vice versa regardless of the amount of make up you wear or surgical procedures you want to undergo. 
 

If you’d shag a bloke with his cock cut off you’re bent, simple as that. Each to their own though, whatever floats your boat 

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12 minutes ago, Ke1t said:

If you found out half way through her sucking your cock, or grinding your little fireman with her newly minted ladybox,  that she used to be a dude I'm going to say 99.99% of guys are going to let her finish. 

I'd smash her knowing ahead of time she was a dude.

 

I think once you get to a certain point, there's no turnin' back.  It's an abomination so it is.  Aye, an abomination I tell you.

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21 minutes ago, NEM said:

Funny you should compare the belief in an all seeing sky wizard to the trans nonsense 

Yeah, trans people categorically, and absolutely exist. There's proof. In fact, you'd be stupid to dispute that. 
 

God on the other hand...not so much. 
 

Cheers.

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6 minutes ago, NEM said:

If you’d shag a bloke with his cock cut off you’re bent, simple as that. 

Ah fuck.

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6 minutes ago, NEM said:

Cultural norms are irrelevant. Basic biology dictates you can’t change from a male to a female or vice versa regardless of the amount of make up you wear or surgical procedures you want to undergo. 
 

If you’d shag a bloke with his cock cut off you’re bent, simple as that. Each to their own though, whatever floats your boat 

Cultural mores are everything. They're the bedrock on which society is founded. 

The very definition is, "the essential or characteristic customs and conventions of a community." Without custom or convention we have an ant colony, not a human civilization. 

I'd further argue that if you wouldn't shag a bird because she used to be a bloke you're bent, simple as that. 

 

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6 minutes ago, NEM said:

Cultural norms are irrelevant. Basic biology dictates you can’t change from a male to a female or vice versa regardless of the amount of make up you wear or surgical procedures you want to undergo
 

If you’d shag a bloke with his cock cut off you’re bent, simple as that. Each to their own though, whatever floats your boat 

So human beings are reduced purely to their biology? 
 

What's the point in psychology? What's the point in neurology? Or is that also a part of their biology, and biology isn't just, Man= penis and Woman= Vagina? Maybe what it means to be a man and what it means to be a woman is influenced more than your elementary understanding of biology. 
 

You can't change your sex, body make up etc, but you certainly can change your gender. There's a difference between the two. No scientist would disagree with that.

 

They observe homosexuality, trans etc in nature, in other parts of the animal kingdom. 

To think humans would be impervious to that would be stupid. 

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Fucking hell. This place is getting worse than the fitba foum and threads.

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18 minutes ago, Beachend Bootboy said:

I think once you get to a certain point, there's no turnin' back.  It's an abomination so it is.  Aye, an abomination I tell you.

It's true. 

If you're most of the way there and the chick sucking your cock whips out her own cock to finish on your face, you're probably just going to have to go with it and take her load like a champ. 

I'm not saying it's the ideal scenario. 

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1 minute ago, Roberto said:

Is there 2 genders or more?

There are. 

1. Things you can shag.

2. Things you can't/won't shag. 

Leave it up to personal interpretation what you stick your cock in... it's the simplest solution. 

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7 minutes ago, Roberto said:

Is there 2 genders or more?

According to some Irish woman who gave testimony to a Scottish parliamentary committee last week at least 9 genders 

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3 minutes ago, Ke1t said:

There are. 

1. Things you can shag.

2. Things you can't/won't shag. 

Leave it up to personal interpretation what you stick your cock in... it's the simplest solution. 

3. I'd shag anything.

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7 minutes ago, Ke1t said:

It's true. 

If you're most of the way there and the chick sucking your cock whips out her own cock to finish on your face, you're probably just going to have to go with it and take her load like a champ. 

I'm not saying it's the ideal scenario. 

No, not ideal at all.  One to take to the grave me thinks.

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1 minute ago, Roberto said:

3. I'd shag anything.

Pinnacle of human evolution... pure sexual opportunism. 

"Whatever that is, I'm fucking it."

😃👍

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24 minutes ago, CCB III said:

Yeah, trans people categorically, and absolutely exist. There's proof. In fact, you'd be stupid to dispute that. 
 

God on the other hand...not so much. 
 

Cheers.

I’ve never said they didn’t exist, more projection from you.

 

They exist just as depressed, bi-polar and schizophrenic people exist. They can’t change their gender either though.

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24 minutes ago, Ke1t said:

Cultural mores are everything. They're the bedrock on which society is founded. 

The very definition is, "the essential or characteristic customs and conventions of a community." Without custom or convention we have an ant colony, not a human civilization. 

I'd further argue that if you wouldn't shag a bird because she used to be a bloke you're bent, simple as that. 

 

He’s not a bird though, he’s a bloke who’s had a hole drilled where his cock used to be.

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17 minutes ago, Roberto said:

3. I'd shag anything.

The Star of David for a start! 
 

anyway, Trump was right all along, who’d have thought it? 
 

 

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3 minutes ago, NEM said:

I’ve never said they didn’t exist, more projection from you.

 

They exist just as depressed, bi-polar and schizophrenic people exist. They can’t change their gender either though.

They certainly can. And do. And will. 
 

Gender is a societal construct. It's literally made up. 
 

That's not up for debate. That's a fact. 
 

Also, you know biology also covers human behaviour? Of which being trans would come under? 
 

You know they actually think it might be that people, in their development as kids, are born with a masculine brain and a feminine brain. 
 

In which case, if that's their brain make up, it's not illness, it's their essence. 
 

You're writing off all possibilities because of your own discomfort. 
 

 

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10 minutes ago, Poodler said:

The Star of David for a start! 

 

I've pumped an Israeli bird, so yup.

Not a Palestinian, but never say never.

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