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1 hour ago, CCB III said:

I certainly donate money to those causes you've mentioned, and food to food banks. 
 

Wasn't picketing, because it's not my fight. If my union went on strike, I'd picket. I support them picketing though. 
 

If I ignore the relevance of those points, in those circumstances, id be trying to gather people more rights. 
 

1.) The right to migrate without fear of harm or detention, of trafficking 

2.) Backing the rights of workers to have good pay, hours and secure contracts 

3.) Providing people with adequate food in a society that fails them 

 

What your opinion is doing, is denying rights to women. You're regressing. You're saying "actually no, I think your reason for not wanting a baby has to be really good, otherwise you'll have to have one." You're forcing people to do something against their will, because of how YOU feel about it. 
 


 

If you're insistent that people have forced births, surely you should be willing to adopt said births? Surely? You're insisting that they have them? That would be consistent? The life is precious and it needs looked after, the mother never wanted to do it, so surely, with your own moral conviction, you should take responsibility? 
 

They'll only do the abortion after their cut off point if the birth will kill her. 
 

You've also said nothing about the rise of deaths in young women, and the foetuses you want to protect, by making the access harder? Why?

 

Lets make it clear, big lad. 
 

More abortion laws= More deaths for foetuses, and more deaths for young women. 
 

How does that solve your moral conundrum? 

1. You are factually incorrect on this. No matter how much you say you are not you are

 

2. You can prove this obviously. With facts and figures. With the laws in place as they are over 200k abortions took place in England and Wales in 2021. You honestly believe that more than that will take place if it were illegal(I'm not advocating that for clarity) 

You believe that over 500 illegal abortions every single day would take place?

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Just now, manboobs109 said:

You can prove this obviously. With facts and figures.

Would take you a simple google search to find that abortion deaths are much more common in places where it's illegal, as opposed to places it isn't.  
 

But that doesn't seem to bother you. The lives of those desperate women. It's the unborn that are really important, not the born. Fuck what they want. 
 

As long as they submit to your moral will. 
 

Hypocrite. 
 

 

 

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7 minutes ago, manboobs109 said:

1. You are factually incorrect on this. No matter how much you say you are not you are

 

2. You can prove this obviously. With facts and figures. With the laws in place as they are over 200k abortions took place in England and Wales in 2021. You honestly believe that more than that will take place if it were illegal(I'm not advocating that for clarity) 

You believe that over 500 illegal abortions every single day would take place?

Are you in favour of the population increasing by 200k per year?

And, for the tens of thousands of young mothers to get council accommodation, state benefits and ongoing long term social work assistance? 

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Just now, CCB III said:

Would take you a simple google search to find that abortion deaths are much more common in places where it's illegal, as opposed to places it isn't.  
 

But that doesn't seem to bother you. The lives of those desperate women. It's the unborn that are really important, not the born. Fuck what they want. 
 

As long as they submit to your moral will. 
 

Hypocrite. 
 

 

 

Use contraception or abstain from vaginal sex. No pregnancy, no abortion, no death.

 

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10 minutes ago, manboobs109 said:

1. You are factually incorrect on this. No matter how much you say you are not you are

 

2. You can prove this obviously. With facts and figures. With the laws in place as they are over 200k abortions took place in England and Wales in 2021. You honestly believe that more than that will take place if it were illegal(I'm not advocating that for clarity) 

You believe that over 500 illegal abortions every single day would take place?

I misspoke there. 
 

Obv if it was illegal, there'd be less abortions. 
 

My point is though, there'll be more abortion related deaths. If someone is that desperate to get one, they'll get one by any means necessary. Your pov is endangering these women. 
 

You think it's ok to endanger vulnerable, desperate women, because of your own ideological belief. You think it's ok to tell women what they can/can't do with their bodies, because if your own moral belief, a belief that isn't shared by everyone. 
 

Goes against your own principles, but ok. 
 

Ok, that's something you've justified to yourself. 

 

Going round in circles on this. It became pointless a while back, should've ducked out when I realised you weren't interested in important logic and reason to the convo, just emotional moralising. 
 

 

 

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8 minutes ago, manboobs109 said:

Use contraception or abstain from vaginal sex. No pregnancy, no abortion, no death.

 

Yes, let's make women suffer by having kids they don't want, for succumbing to the natural urge of sex. You sound like some mad preacher from the Bible Belt. 
 

That's a realistic and adult POV. You fucking idiot. 
 

You sound like a religious fundamentalist, man. Seriously, you're totally and utterly beyond reasoning on this issue. 
 

One final funny little Moobsism I'd like to point out is this; 

 

"We can't take in all these extra fucking people, how many is too many!?" 
 

also holds the same thought; 

 

"200,000 aborted foetuses should be brought to term, yearly" 

 

Eeeeeddiiiioooot
 

 

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7 minutes ago, manboobs109 said:

Yes

Are you fuck. You'd be the first sack of shit to moan if your taxes went up, first sack of shit to moan that these mothers were having the state pay for their kids, that these kids didn't have dads and were growing up to be trouble makers or whatever. 
 

You'd cry like fuck about all of that. 
 

Again, you care about the infant in their 9 months of unborn, the minute the kid is born, it's someone else's problem. It's transparent as fuck. 

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15 minutes ago, manboobs109 said:

Use contraception or abstain from vaginal sex. No pregnancy, no abortion, no death.

 

Shouldn't men be doing the same? 
 

Ultimately it's the man who impregnates the woman, shouldn't men be abstaining from all vaginal sex in the event of an unwanted pregnancy?

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Just now, Poodler said:

Sometimes they pull you closer when you’re about to pull out and cum. That’s their fault. Cummy slit

That's fine. 
 

In that event, they can get the morning after pill. 
 

It's great living in a civilised society where people can enjoy sex, without being forced into parenthood. Brilliant, in fact. 
 

Less unhappy kids born to parents who don't want/love them. 
 

More people able to decide when they do/don't want to have a baby 

 

More people able to get a bit of money behind them before they consider the financial burden of raising a child 

 

Modern civilisation. It certainly has its benefits!

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38 minutes ago, manboobs109 said:

Use contraception or abstain from vaginal sex. No pregnancy, no abortion, no death.

 

I think the Bible is very explicit that abstaining from vaginal sex is no guarantee a woman won't get pregnant anyway. 

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1 hour ago, Poodler said:

Sometimes they pull you closer when you’re about to pull out and cum. That’s their fault. Cummy slit

I know right?  One time I fucked this one called Mah ( I know? ) and she insisted I removed Jonathan, then got pissed the next week when she got an STI, from me, and her fanny was all swollen and red. 

Better than a baby though.  

Children LOL. 

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The undeniable fact is that children are cunts.

For God's sake Brian used to be one.

That's all we need to know.

Abort em all.

 

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1 hour ago, Grays Babylon 1875 said:

I know right?  One time I fucked this one called Mah ( I know? ) and she insisted I removed Jonathan, then got pissed the next week when she got an STI, from me, and her fanny was all swollen and red. 

Better than a baby though.  

Children LOL. 

Infecting women with an sti a few years ago led to me meeting Cliff Richard. 

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28 minutes ago, Poodler said:

Infecting women with an sti a few years ago led to me meeting Cliff Richard. 

Because you were sharing children? 

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4 hours ago, Grays Babylon 1875 said:

I know right?  One time I fucked this one called Mah ( I know? ) and she insisted I removed Jonathan, then got pissed the next week when she got an STI, from me, and her fanny was all swollen and red. 

Better than a baby though.  

Children LOL. 

^ Yet more gobbledygook.

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8 hours ago, CCB III said:

I misspoke there. 
 

Obv if it was illegal, there'd be less abortions. 
 

My point is though, there'll be more abortion related deaths. If someone is that desperate to get one, they'll get one by any means necessary. Your pov is endangering these women. 
 

You think it's ok to endanger vulnerable, desperate women, because of your own ideological belief. You think it's ok to tell women what they can/can't do with their bodies, because if your own moral belief, a belief that isn't shared by everyone. 
 

Goes against your own principles, but ok. 
 

Ok, that's something you've justified to yourself. 

 

Going round in circles on this. It became pointless a while back, should've ducked out when I realised you weren't interested in important logic and reason to the convo, just emotional moralising. 
 

 

 

And you think it is OK to allow babies to be killed because of your own ideological belief.

 

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8 hours ago, CCB III said:

Are you fuck. You'd be the first sack of shit to moan if your taxes went up, first sack of shit to moan that these mothers were having the state pay for their kids, that these kids didn't have dads and were growing up to be trouble makers or whatever. 
 

You'd cry like fuck about all of that. 
 

Again, you care about the infant in their 9 months of unborn, the minute the kid is born, it's someone else's problem. It's transparent as fuck. 

So a new argument for abortion is that it helps keep taxes low? That's a serious point now. Kill circa 250k babies to help keep taxes down?

Some socialist you are.

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30 minutes ago, BrianFaePerth said:

Fuckin hell, eh don’t go in this thread for 36 Hours and it takes me almost as long to catch up.

What a surprise, Consi being an arsehole page after page.

And do you know Bri - it was great you no being here 

 

Fuck off 

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1 hour ago, shut up meg said:

Away from the abortion arguments, I see that the royal family are showing their true values.

This time its Charlie, jug eared prick.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/jun/25/prince-charles-is-said-to-have-been-given-3m-in-qatari-cash

Try reading behind the sensational headlines and the cash was then handed to the bank and then passed onto various charities.

Lazy journalism looking to hook in simpletons.

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