The Goodwin effect!

[Rico1903]

6 hours ago, Shinniesta said:

Goodwin revealing in his interview on Sportscene that some of the players he told are surplus to requirements and free to find a new club for next season threw their toys out of the pram. Guess most of us suspected that at least Goodwin has now confirmed it. Why some of them thought they would be getting kept on after their embarrassing performances this season is beyond me. 

Not sure throwing your toys out the pram will help you get a new club either. I can understand frustration, disappointment, anger etc but surely you have to process that quickly and be professional enough to get your head down and work harder than ever to try to impress other clubs if nothing else. Apparently not. 

[RUL]

41 minutes ago, minijc said:

It is in a way but at the same time it shows you how easy it was for an outsider to come in and sus some of these chancers.  

I think all the judgements have probably been right, so that’s the positive. 

[RUL]

21 minutes ago, Broken_Glass said:

What is strange about it?

The majority of players being let go must have had a fair idea that they weren't part of the plans going forward. 

It's also not uncommon to have a period of notice to allow them to seek a new club and allow their dodgy agents to leak deals and seek pastures new. 

It's a non story and a fairly standard procedure that goes on at every club telling players prior to the end of the season who are not part of the future plans that they're free to move on.

Can't wait to see how many are part of the cull. 

I agree with his decisions ultimately and he’s explained his reasons for handling it, I just feel like we’ve abandoned the season.

there’s been visible signs that the players have given up and maybe that wouldn’t have been case if he had just strung them along 

[Sonoftherock]

At the time, I loved hearing that the players who'd let our club down, had been given their jotters.  It definitely provided some crumbs of comfort... to be honest, I wanted the players to take a taste of their own medicine.  However on reflection/bigger picture it probably wasn't the best approach, given that prize money, top 6 and potentially even european qualification, was still up for grabs.

[Byrne Baby Byrne]

4 minutes ago, Sonoftherock said:

At the time, I loved hearing that the players who'd let our club down, had been given their jotters.  It definitely provided some crumbs of comfort... to be honest, I wanted the players to take a taste of their own medicine.  However on reflection/bigger picture it probably wasn't the best approach, given that prize money, top 6 and potentially even european qualification, was still up for grabs.

Aye but to be honest when were we last even in a top 6 position. We were shite before that and have just continued to be shite. Don't know if it would have made a difference, we are just shite. 

I think the extra prize money just goes to the players anyway - as an incentive not to be shite

[Redmist1903]

37 minutes ago, RUL said:

I think all the judgements have probably been right, so that’s the positive. 

It'll be interesting to see how much of the released guys end up at Killie. I can see McInnes signing up McGeough again.

[redone]

10 minutes ago, Byrne Baby Byrne said:

Aye but to be honest when were we last even in a top 6 position. We were shite before that and have just continued to be shite. Don't know if it would have made a difference, we are just shite. 

Yup.   I don’t think lack of effort has been the problem , for the most part anyway.   Just a general lack of quality and ability collectively as a team.

[RUL]

15 minutes ago, Byrne Baby Byrne said:

Aye but to be honest when were we last even in a top 6 position. We were shite before that and have just continued to be shite. Don't know if it would have made a difference, we are just shite. 

I think the extra prize money just goes to the players anyway - as an incentive not to be shite

We absolutely chucked top 6 away at dens 

[Byrne Baby Byrne]

14 minutes ago, Redmist1903 said:

It'll be interesting to see how much of the released guys end up at Killie. I can see McInnes signing up McGeough again.

Not sure he'd fancy the plastic pitch. Otherwise I could see him doing pretty well there if playing every week in a role that doesn't involve 2 other players being asked to do the exact same thing....

[Redmist1903]

2 hours ago, Byrne Baby Byrne said:

Not sure he'd fancy the plastic pitch. Otherwise I could see him doing pretty well there if playing every week in a role that doesn't involve 2 other players being asked to do the exact same thing....

He'd probably sign up Dom Ball again as well just to keep his defensive midfield quota high.

[Dons79]

I think McInnes will sign up McGeouch, McLennan, Campbell and considine, gives him a better midfield to start the SPL for next season and boxes off his centre backs seen as Taylor is already their. Ps I watched the final league game between Kilmarnock and Arbroath and Taylor is still better than any centre half’s we have, add considine for a bit of bite and he will do well to consolidate his position in the SPL in the first season back 

[Byrne Baby Byrne]

7 minutes ago, Dons79 said:

I think McInnes will sign up McGeouch, McLennan, Campbell and considine, gives him a better midfield to start the SPL for next season and boxes off his centre backs seen as Taylor is already their. Ps I watched the final league game between Kilmarnock and Arbroath and Taylor is still better than any centre half’s we have, add considine for a bit of bite and he will do well to consolidate his position in the SPL in the first season back 

Not everyones opinion, but for me Taylor over the course of a season is a good defender. His mistakes were always just so idiotic and fairly high profile. But he'd generally make a lot less than the current clowns on a monthly basis. They actually aren't even close to being as good as Taylor. I would prefer Phil McGuire and Zander Diamond as a central defensive partnership... even retired in their 40s and late 30s

[Ten Caat]

I thought McGeouch might end up there too until I was reminded about their plastic pitch. Probably can rule him out on those grounds. The shout about Dom Ball signing for them could well be a good one though.

Campbell didn't exactly shine in his loan period there, doubt that will happen. And Considine's knee probably rules him out on similar grounds to McGeouch

[Andy_123]

Considine's knee couldn't even last 90 mins on our pitch. He'll never cope on a plastic one. Wouldn't be surprised to see him retire despite saying he want's to keep playing.

No doubt some of our pish will end up at Killie next season.

[Dons79]

They had power? 37 year old Burke?, that other centre mid that was 100, cannot mind his name, Taylor can’t be young, pish that they wouldn’t go in fear of a plastic pitch, 

campbell was asked the other day before he went in to training if he was going to end up at killie and he said “you never know” , not exactly wanted at Aberdeen and cannot see him breaking back into the first team squad 

[Andy_123]

5 minutes ago, Dons79 said:

They had power? 37 year old Burke?, that other centre mid that was 100, cannot mind his name, Taylor can’t be young, pish that they wouldn’t go in fear of a plastic pitch, 

campbell was asked the other day before he went in to training if he was going to end up at killie and he said “you never know” , not exactly wanted at Aberdeen and cannot see him breaking back into the first team squad 

Given the amount of players we have leaving I'd say next season is likely as good a chance as he'll ever get to stake a claim for a first team position. 

Has he played regularly at Killie?

[Parklife]

Just now, Andy_123 said:

Given the amount of players we have leaving I'd say next season is likely as good a chance as he'll ever get to stake a claim for a first team position. 

Has he played regularly at Killie?

Did initially but appeared to be a sub latterly. 

[Dons79]

Just now, Andy_123 said:

Given the amount of players we have leaving I'd say next season is likely as good a chance as he'll ever get to stake a claim for a first team position. 

Has he played regularly at Killie?

Unfortunately not, played centre mid at the start but didn’t do well, got dropped and started playing lb for them, improved, definitely enough to get a deal 

[DD1903]

23 minutes ago, Andy_123 said:

Given the amount of players we have leaving I'd say next season is likely as good a chance as he'll ever get to stake a claim for a first team position. 

Has he played regularly at Killie?

Looks like he play around half a dozen times. He’d be daft to sign for mcinnes again

[shut up meg]

7 hours ago, Millertime said:

Again, which one was that?

The only one I am aware of was when you were not going to post as long as FnD didn't post.

Was there any others?

[Millertime]

1 hour ago, shut up meg said:

The only one I am aware of was when you were not going to post as long as FnD didn't post.

Was there any others?

Ah right, good one

[DD1903]

1 hour ago, shut up meg said:

The only one I am aware of was when you were not going to post as long as FnD didn't post.

Was there any others?

Only to see FnD start another account…

[shut up meg]

10 minutes ago, DD1903 said:

Only to see FnD start another account…

I think the doncumthecunt fiasco was before the bet.

[fine-n-dandy]

10 minutes ago, shut up meg said:

I think the doncumthecunt fiasco was before the bet.

Don’t let that spoil his gobbling of MT

[Ke1t]

I'd keep Campbell, I still think he has potential, on the understanding that he makes this his breakthrough year. He's getting to the age where he needs to be staking a first team place.

Polvara I've liked. Strong lad who can and does win the ball, but also a good passer, holds off challenges, and links up well with the players around him. He's like a blank slate right now, though... doesn't seem to be one thing or the other. He needs to decide if he's going to be a ballwinner or a playmaker. 

Bez showed some great skills on Sunday, hopefully he keeps improving rather than getting dragged down to the standard of his team mates. With us it seems to be the latter scenario more often than not. 

Masson Barron has the potential to be huge for us, if he isn't already. 

McKenzie is nowhere near as bad as some folk like to make out. 

McRorie is solid. 

Lewis probably isn't as bad as we thought, given the pair of tits he has in front of him leaving him out to dry game after game.  

Other than that, the rest are gone, either voluntarily.. like Ferguson and Ramsey, or involuntarily, like (please baby jesus) Ojo and Ruth. 

We more or less need to sign an entire team of players. 

Feels like stating the obvious, like. 

 

[Don_Corleone]

12 minutes ago, Ke1t said:

I'd keep Campbell, I still think he has potential, on the understanding that he makes this his breakthrough year. He's getting to the age where he needs to be staking a first team place.

Polvara I've liked. Strong lad who can and does win the ball, but also a good passer, holds off challenges, and links up well with the players around him. He's like a blank slate right now, though... doesn't seem to be one thing or the other. He needs to decide if he's going to be a ballwinner or a playmaker. 

Bez showed some great skills on Sunday, hopefully he keeps improving rather than getting dragged down to the standard of his team mates. With us it seems to be the latter scenario more often than not. 

Masson has the potential to be huge for us, if he isn't already. 

McKenzie is nowhere near as bad as some folk like to make out. 

McRorie is solid. 

Lewis probably isn't as bad as we thought, given the pair of tits he has in front of him leaving him out to dry game after game.  

Campbell needs to go - doesn't offer anything we don't already have.

Polvara looks neat and tidy etc but yet to do anything of real note in a game - hopefully he'll make a lot of progress next season.

Bez will do better in a team with other decent attacking players around him.

Masson? You're about 10-15 years too late... 

McKenzie is not as bad as some folk make out, but I don't think he's going to be good enough to help us achieve our targets.

McRorie is a solid, athletic player, but pretty limited on the ball - I'd play him at RB or RCB if we're going to a 3 at the back.

Lewis needs replaced, both as keeper and captain. We need a keeper in his prime who commands his defence, and a captain who inspires the team - Lewis does neither.

[Ke1t]

4 minutes ago, Don_Corleone said:

 

Masson? You're about 10-15 years too late... 

 

Haha... fuck me.. 

Barron. 

[Don_Corleone]

9 minutes ago, Ke1t said:

Haha... fuck me.. 

Barron. 

haha hopefully Barron turns out better than Masson did!

[Millertime]

1 hour ago, Ke1t said:

I'd keep Campbell, I still think he has potential, on the understanding that he makes this his breakthrough year. He's getting to the age where he needs to be staking a first team place.

Polvara I've liked. Strong lad who can and does win the ball, but also a good passer, holds off challenges, and links up well with the players around him. He's like a blank slate right now, though... doesn't seem to be one thing or the other. He needs to decide if he's going to be a ballwinner or a playmaker. 

Bez showed some great skills on Sunday, hopefully he keeps improving rather than getting dragged down to the standard of his team mates. With us it seems to be the latter scenario more often than not. 

Masson Barron has the potential to be huge for us, if he isn't already. 

McKenzie is nowhere near as bad as some folk like to make out. 

McRorie is solid. 

Lewis probably isn't as bad as we thought, given the pair of tits he has in front of him leaving him out to dry game after game.  

Other than that, the rest are gone, either voluntarily.. like Ferguson and Ramsey, or involuntarily, like (please baby jesus) Ojo and Ruth. 

We more or less need to sign an entire team of players. 

Feels like stating the obvious, like. 

 

Like what?

[OnceFaeMintlaw]

13 hours ago, Millertime said:

Like what?

I think he means a complete overhaul, the scale of which was probably last seem when Turnbull became manager.